I think in some ways the Embers have made it worse cause there is this idea of progressing towards it.
For people who done it for 10 weeks plus damn that would feel rough.
I wasn’t even playing plate back then
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As someone who got Dragonwrath in Cata. Even though I didn’t get Dragonwrath until 4.3 (Dragon Soul Patch - my guild was normal 10m at the time). I did get it eventually. And it was a solid leggo. I enjoyed it. But this…this is an absolute joke of a circumstance.
I’ll look that up. I’m an SL baby so I dunno much about older legendaries. Were they this hard?
Sad.
I remember the days of one or two Thunderfury per SERVER in an era that lasted YEARS. Now people are whining that they ONLY know 10 people that got something in 3 months and blizzard hands it out to everyone.
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Yes. But then go look at classic era servers and count the thousands that exist, count the players that looted both bindings in the same run.
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I’ve been clearing heroic since before it was even available to be looted. The embers do make it worse. I would have stopped farming for it weeks ago but at this point I’m too invested to stop. I have so many lesser embers I lost count. I just want it to end, I want it to drop so I can be done and move on. Oh! Let’s not forget, because of the essences I refrained from even bringing alts to our heroic raids after we had it on farm and my warrior had everything from the raid aside some off spec gear. Would have loved to bring in some of my alts but nope. I was shoehorned into bringing only my warrior because I didn’t want to miss out on any embers…any extra chance…and this is how I get rewarded for my dedication?
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It’s just the moral of the story not about what’s current. Today’s kids are just big babies.
Guild saw two more axes drop last night. All the eligible main raiders (tanks included) have it now.
GL to everyone else still chasing it
Not hard, but it took dedication. And you could see the light in the tunnel. You had a defined end goal in sight. Even if you got less of the quest drops per week because you were in a casual guild.
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I feel your pain.
This is the worst part.
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Providing data for others:
2 LFR kills
9 normal mode kills
4 heroic mode kills
Seen 1 axe drop, attained 0.
I do feel as though a legendary item shouldn’t be handed out like epics. Make them feel powerful and something you have to earn. The RNG basis for this specific legendary worried me upon it’s announcement, but I held out hope that ‘it couldn’t be that bad’, and I was excited. I started to feel pretty defeated after AOTC/KSH was achieved, and in all my guild’s kills, we only saw one axe drop on an alt. At this point, the content I could have benefitted the most from having the axe is already completed. I’d still like to get it, but honestly, it’s lost it’s luster.
I acknowledge that the number of kills I have is not as high as some. But not having any trackable way to feel like I’m making progress has turned into just making a kill weekly because ‘this might be the one’ and has sucked all the fun out of it. While I can appreciate the drops of the embers as Blizzard’s attempt at tracking progress, without knowing anything about the % given, it really didn’t have any weight behind it. At least it was better than poor Evoker’s got last tier, but that’s setting the bar pretty low. This could have been solved by simply turning the means to achieve the axe around. Have me do a quest that involves gathering all the items necessary to handle and contain the power Fyr’alath represents, then put a number of items needed to wield it on Fyrakk that I can track and count to eventually achieve the reward. I loved getting Shadowmourne, even years after WotLK ended. It took me a long time and I’m reaching back in my memory, but when it was current, I don’t remember seeing them all over the place. So any argument of making the drop RNG based so that way everyone wouldn’t be running around with legendary axes, doesn’t really hold any water.
All in all, I’m not a Blizzard basher. I pay for the game because I like most of the content and enjoy logging in to play. That said, from my perspective, this legendary weapon was poorly handled in acquisition conception, tuning, and the response to feedback from the community. Which for the record, I would hold this perspective even if I currently held the axe in hand. My only hope is that Blizzard learns from their mistakes this expansion regarding legendries and makes the necessary changes.
Prior to 10.2 they said they had learned from the Evoker legendary, and then doubled down with Fyr’alaugh. They never learn anything, they just wait X amount of time to repeat their mistakes in the hopes that player turnover has reached enough so we don’t remember their screwups.
Thank you… This is all I have been asking for. Now I can make the educated decision on if I want to keep trying or not.
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EVERYONE CHECK OUT WOWHEAD’S POST TODAY WHERE THEY MINED HOW BAD LUCK PROTECTION ACTUALLY WORKS.
Based on the Wowhead post of today, you should clarify that people clearing normal shouldn’t expect to see it within this season, based on how bad luck protection works, and that you really had no intention that raiding normal (or LFR) be a viable path to the weapon. The way it was characterized is extremely misleading in the face of the evidence Wowhead has revealed, and the remedy you’ve implemented doesn’t do much to correct it. If anything, it demonstrates (a) that I shouldn’t have bothered getting my hopes up, and (b) that I should have just mained my rogue for the tier instead.
As a player who enjoys pushing his limits in M+ but sticks with his friends and family AOTC guild, I wasn’t sweating trying to pug the kill before my raid got it down, (a) because pugging sucks sometimes and I wanted to get the kill with my guild, and (b) because I blithely assumed the benefit for bad luck protection from normal wouldn’t be so meteorically worse than heroic. Boy, do I feel like a fool!
I’m the idiot who farmed all the mats for the quests way early in the season because I was so excited. Now I’m a confirmed idiot.
Cannot believe how awful this feels. I’m certain there probably aren’t another twelve weeks in this season to kill heroic Fyrakk to add to our two kills so far to gain that last 70% bad luck protection to guarantee the drop, and asking my friends and family guild to keep farming heroic Fyrakk for the sake of the plate DPS when we’ve already been clearing normal Fyrakk every week this season just in case feels terrible.
For gods’ sake, could you maybe make the bad luck protection scaling less awful for everyone?
I feel terrible and foolish. The lesson is never to main a spec that Blizzard has designed a legendary for with this method of distribution, so that you don’t have to worry about getting your hopes up.
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yeah, not gonna lie - based on the numbers wowhead released - those with bad luck are still not protected. Absolute trash acquisition system.
It’s literally just putting it in more people’s hands and then the unlucky - are punished even more because of their bad luck (that your system was supposed to protect them from).
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based on some dataming by wowhead if you’re doing this in LFR/Normal… don’t hold your breath
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They really freaking hotfixed this BS after the NA reset. What the actual duck.
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So if you just do lfr and normal, you don’t got a chance for this season. If you just killed Fyrakk for the first time on heroic, you are very unlikely to get this axe at all for this season. This will cause more backlash and more people quitting the game…possibly for good.
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They datamined and speculated how it works. Numerous disclaimers in that article, and assumptions made. Don’t take this as gospel, or start complaining about how you’re supposed to be at 50-60% and still not seeing the axe.
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i agree. in fact, not only that, they should write each of us an individual, personalized apology. and provide a gift card to the restaurant of my choice.
the fact that they didn’t make the system work the way i thought it should is unconscionable.
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