Has anyone looked at this? Thoughts? It looks like the spec in general is tied around Lunar Beam? And we are dependant on casting starfire/moonfire?
It looks great. Very high self healing, and good damage. Eluneâs Chosen looks great, though Iâd wait on what is being done in Beta.
The bear spec tree makes not alot of sense with Druid of the Claw (maul procs on top of maul procs), so Iâd bet there will be some sort of changes to bear that may impact how each hero spec works.
But, playstyle and visuals, Eluneâs Chosen looks great.
A dark beam sounds appealing. Claw looks like it centers around RavageâŠand requires some cat weavingâŠwhich i feel like in M+ could be dangerous
Iâve always been a fan of arcane bear. I think that having a hero tree that leans into it is great. The only real issue I have is the bloated talent trees, both the class and spec ones. It makes it hard to both get the talents you need and the talents you want.
I get you need to make choices but after seeing other class trees (like ret) the amount you have to leave on the table just feels bad.
Laser bear is fun, and feels pretty good so far. I do wish the fury of elune proc was a bit more common even if that came with lower damage as it is a really cool visual.
Historically, Iâve disliked the idea of galaxy bear. But (assuming we donât get some kind of mini-rework) it will be the only choice. Claw Druid just doesnât have the synergies.
Lets walk through this shall we
Massive attack: Just like Raze. Perfect synergy for the raze build
Fount of Strength: FR increases max health by 10% - last i checked, bears use this often
Dreadful Wound: Massive Attack adds in a 5% DR to all enemies hit. Check
Bestial Strength: 10% damage to Maul and Raze. I mean, that has absolutely no synergy with Maul or Raze that we use excessively, right?
Wildshape Mastery: will still.have to see how this one plays out in practice
Killing Strikes: Free Massive Attack every pull
Strike for the Heart: increased damage on our #1 rage generator and #1 filler
Aggravate Wounds: every button we push extends the duration of Dreadful Wounds which if youve forgotten is our exrta DR
Empowered Shapeshifting / Wildpower Surge: Increased damage on on Swipe and Mangle (used excessively) along with an extra magic damage reduction, or Mangle (again, see: used excessively) grants feline potential which plays back in with Wildshape mastery
Claw Rampage: All our physical abilities have a chance to make our next maul a Massive attack.
Youâre right. I donât see any synergy what so ever.
Haste will up the proc amount, so that talent will be meh until geared.
Kaercha,
Since your opinion is actually worth hearing and you brought it upâŠ
The fact that DotC is just Tooth and Claw the Hero Talents! feels like it is doubling up on the maul interactions. What do you think they are going to do to fix that overlap? I feel like my moonbear, which uses Maul/Raze alot, relies on those talents for Maul in the middle, yet those talents feel redudant to DotC.
Do you think they are going to work on bear spec tree, or just ship it and deal with it later?
I think they said in a blue post that they were switching gears to focus on tuning, so I doubt weâll see any more changes. Outside of shaman, claw is probably the worst spec. I know itâs a bit early to gripe about tuning, but cat weaving isnât worth the extra global right now. The entire tree is completely redundant with TnC.
Moon bear will be the only way to go for single target and aoe, and then your spec choice is going to be between extra leech and DR. 
I expect we wonât be able to pick up raze and perhaps even lose RotS to play it. Just boring. Silver consecrate. Youâll likely still stack TnC, but being locked out of raze because all our galaxy stuff is in the bottom row is going to make the spec trip over itself.
The wild shape thing could be cool with some changes to the underlying kit, I said as much on the thread on the Druid forums. But as it stands now, bear will be back to just generally the worst tank for competitive content, the base playstyle is an anti pattern. Maybe if we got to use cool cat abilities, like BS or PW.
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Primal Wrath would have me excited about DotC.
And as far as the blue posts, I have had to have this argument on the Shaman forums enough Iâm getting tired of it.
To quote myselfâŠ
So, no guarantee they rework other specs, but I donât think it is out of the window just yet. From what they posted, we ARE getting DotC and EC, period.
Donât do that. Donât give me hope.
Are you in the Beta actively testing what you just posted?
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Do you have to be in the beta to be able to read and comprehend?
Calm yourself Nancy. I was asking if your information was coming from experience or hypothetical because it is exactly the opposite of what I have been seen discussed elsewhere.
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I simply wrote out what the hero talents do.
They all interact with all of our physical abilities.
And the power shifting that everyone is worried aboutâŠdoesnât even have to be taken. Itâs a choice talent
Eluneâs Chosen works nicely, arcane buffed thrash is nice. Bit disappointing that it offers nothing new visually though (Balance has the same issue with this hero tree). It buffs existing skills, but nothing stands out as âWow thatâs an Eluneâs Chosen Druidâ aside from picking already existing talents. At the very least would be nice to see the buffed skills get a bit of a visual boost.
I was really hoping for a blue/moon glow type thrash when you spec into arcane thrash butâŠitâs the same. Lunar Beam is pretty underwhelming visually as well.
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Agreed. A nice arcane visual for Thrash would really feel good. There is no chance anyone picks the other talent (Stellar Command), since it effectively buffs a very small % of a bearâs damage. Lunar Beam still does pitiful damage and the proc Fury of Elune isnât up enough to be considered a huge portion of damage.
Some sort of visual feel should exist for being the chosen of Elune, Night Warrior lite maybe.
I messed around with it a bit today. Itâs not what I was expecting. I assumed as you did that perhaps we could cast Starfire in bear form. Once I found out that was not the case I assumed we could maybe take convoke and boomie convoke like S1 Shadowlands. This was also not the case, as I discovered that I no longer had boomie form. Blizzard stole my boomie form! Flap was awesome, and I want it back.