She can’t be a loa or wild god because loa’s and wild gods formed FROM Azeroth and some of these entities were formed with help from the Titans. Elune literally can’t be a Azeroth loa or wild god because she existed long before the planet Azeroth existed. She existed at part of the ordering when planets first formed after the big bang. She may be older than that, but we don’t know for sure. Point is, she goes as far back as the big bang (maybe even came from before that), …so no, she can’t be a loa or wild god because the very ‘stuff’ that loa’s and wild gods come from didn’t exist yet.
You’re definitely not wrong. Like you said, the book says “From the moment the physical universe was born, the void lords had been watching the titans of the Pantheon.” I think the writers meant that as a generalization. I think the sentence really means; From the moment the physical universe was born, and planets came into being, the void lords had been watching the titans of the Pantheon. See what I mean? There is wiggle room for time to pass which would make more sense that things just simply POOF appearing.
In short it goes like this, IMO;
-Only light existed
-Pockets of Void form
-Light/Void struggle
-Light/Void struggle causes Big Bang (the moment physical matter came into being and space/time too)
-Ordering of Light and Shadow (I would assume this was the period planets, Titans, and Naaru formed… and this is when the Void Lords began watching the Titans now that Titans existed.).
-Aman’Thul’s birth and everything that happened after that.
Of course I could be completely wrong. Only time will tell.
Blizzard is nothing if not vague and inconsistent. On one level I know its intentional so they can pull “gotcha” moments and still call it lore friendly but on another it means I cant trust anything is true even when they say it is immutable and unchanging.
One bright spot though is Me’dan is back where he belongs in nonexistence.
This isn’t true because Elune flat out fell in love with Malorne which was the first thing she claimed to exist on azeroth besides herself. LITERALLY the moment she found something besides herself she mated with it and then in turn created Cenarius.
Your explanation is correct. And she’s the only true deity we know of in this universe. Thus… she’s a god. Could be the god of the Warcraft universe for all we know.
I believe She created the separation of Light and Void, but I don’t know that She is one or the other.
Poor plot armor and writing, but Tyrande didn’t get her butt handed to her or anything. Tyrande is an avatar of Elune, not Elune Herself.
She’s older than that.
And God doesn’t stop natural disasters in our world. That’s not how gods are portrayed.
Do you have a source for your statement? Because I have a source for mine. Just about everything you said is incorrect.
Read Chonicle Vol. 1 Chapter 2: Primordial Azeroth. The Dark Empire and the Elementals were on the planet for a looooong time before Titans even discovered Azeroth, let alone create life on it. First their was the Elementals and the Elemental Lords. Then the Old Gods crashed down and organic matter spewed from the impact. From this organic matter rose two distinct races, the N’raqi and the Aqir. When the Titans discovered Azeroth they came to investigate. They found a world with Old Gods and Elemental Lords. Titans didn’t even begin creating life till they defeated the Dark Empire and the Elementals were under control. You can find all of this in Chronicle Vol. 1.
Chronicles Vol. 1, pgs. 39-40. In summary it says; Malorne is a Wild God. All Wild Gods came from the Emerald Dream. The Emerald Dream was created by Freya. Freya is a Titan.
So, basically, not only is Malorne NOT the first life on Azeroth, he came well after several other species and empires came and went. Elune never claimed Malorne was the first life… Elune doesn’t speak to people let alone make claims.
It really isn’t. The same concept is applied. Gods don’t intervene all of the time. It’s like that in other fantasy and sci fi realms, as well. Take a look through all sorts of literature, mythology and games. You’ll find similar. This isn’t a concept just unto real life.
And WoW doest’t have any other deities on the scale of Elune. Wild Gods aren’t as powerful. They’re demi-gods. Titans aren’t as powerful as Elune either. She existed before they did.
I’m playing devil’s advocate here; but, do you have a source that supports your statement? Can you prove that Elune ISN’T more powerful or older than the Titans?
It most certainly does. But you continue to live in your little box and refuse to acknowledge facts in front of your face. I’m not replying to you anymore.
Probably the kind of thing that works well with symbolism.
The Orc head was just a random enemy of the person calling on Elune. It didn’t matter whether it was Orc, Gnome, Troll, Draenei, etc. It just has to oppose those who follow Elune.
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It most certainly does. But you continue to live in your little box and refuse to acknowledge facts in front of your face. I’m not replying to you anymore.