That’s why in the previous sentence I mentioned “non-elemental life”, as I was already counting those as existing.
The question is, Was she constructed by gnomish or goblin engineering? This is important so we know the life span of Elune and rather she will just sputter out or blow up in a marvelous explosion.
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This is why Shadowlands was doomed to fail. It let us look behind the curtain and it shattered the illusion.
Even a talented writing team would have struggled to not screw up SL much less Danuser & co.
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I think NE fans have suffered enough.
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Remember how Pelagos became the Archon? He inserted his Soul into the Archon Automa so the same thing must have happened with Elune and the Winter Queen.
They are Gods(or rather Aspects of Gods) that were shoved into Automa to make them do what the First Ones wanted them to do.
Elune has many faces: The White Lady and the Night Warrior for instance(considering Xal’atath has a Moon symbol on her face she too might be one of Elune’s faces: The Black Moon)… I have no doubt the White Lady is inside the Realm of Life Automa. The Winter Queen probably has multiple faces herself: Winter(inhabiting the Death Automa), Summer, Autumn and Spring(inhabiting the Life Automa).
Tyrande has the Night Warrior’s power to do with as she sees fit according to her even if the Night Warrior’s rage was removed. Imagine Xal’atath the Black Moon AKA the true darkest face of Elune succumbing to the rage herself now that Tyrande herself has become the New Moon.
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Why is this same topic being reposted from a year ago? Who cares?
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This. I look forward into the future of AI. I fir one, welcome our cybernetic overlords.
This doesn’t seem likely unless the dragon isle centaur have a different origin cuz there was no way they could’ve gotten to dragon isles from kalimendor where the other centaur come from.
Kalimdor Centaur are hybrids between Keepers of the Grove and Earth Elementals.
Dragon Isles Centaur are something else that’s older than the Kalimdor Centaur.
Cenarius was raised by Ysera and his children the Keepers of the Grove were born from Acorns that were whispered to. Ysera lived right next to the home of the Dragon Isles Centaur so if Ysera was given Cenarius while he was still an Acorn then she most certainly whispered about both the Centaur and his father Malorne explaining why he looks like a cross between the two.
Yeah, the Dragon Isle Centaur are really in a very strange situation, and don’t really make sense. They are supposed to have been around since before the War of the Ancients, but there’s no information as to how they came about and why they are Centaurs like the other Centaurs.
All in all, Warcraft lore is a bunch of spaghetti; all twisted up and it breaks if you try to unravel it.
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Its robots all the way down
I think they forgot that the dragon isles were still isles even before the sundering.
I don’t think so as Tyrande isn’t a robot and there is no proof of the robots effect on a physical life form when there is no convergent.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Like I’ve said before, world-ending threats, aren’t really that big a threat for us anymore.
No one’s afraid of death if we all know without ANY doubt;
That we contine on. Exactly where we’ll be, and what we’ll be doing. Where our friends/loved ones will be. And that we’re VIPs there.
And going from place to place to visit anyone shouldn’t be a difficult, because we’re also BFFs with all those in charge.
It was a really, really, stupid idea from a narrative standpoint. Pulling off time travel is child’s play compared to making a decent narrative both during and after an afterlife expansion.
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Yeah, shadowlands butchered a lot of lore. Really wish we could retcon that expansion out of existence.
Explaining the unexplainable was a big mistake on Blizzards part. It cheapened everything
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Season 9 of Dallas.
That’s because it’s a bunch of mystery box storytelling and they don’t have any plan they just make it up as they go and create contrived explanations for things when they’re forced to. It’s like Lost.
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How about the Winter Queen just tells us who Elune is after we save the Shadowlands. Seems like she owes us one.
Try this:
“Hey, Winter Queen, what’s the deal with Elune, your sister? Who are your parents? Also, how about you tell us everything you know about the universe. Also, what’s the deal with Azeroth anyway? What’s the deal with Sargeras stabbing Azeroth? Are you related to the pantheon? What is the Jailer talking about vague threats? Pretty sure as an immortal god you know at least some of these answers, stop being cryptic and tell us, like right now”
Asking questions in WoW is tough I guess. Guess we’ll just wait for 3 more expansions instead of having a 5 minute conversation with the laundry list of dozens of immortal gods and dragons that owe us big time.
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The Elune is a construct that was built by First Ones who are part of game that was created by a team of game designers.
If I may go on a sort of unhinged tangent…
I found a sort of mental framework to make the whole “robot” thing make more sense to me, and to become more appealing in the fantasy setting.
So, think back to Tolkien, and creatures like the maiar. The maiar are spiritual beings that are inhabiting physical vessels in middle earth. Sauron “dies” a few times, and each time, he has to use his innate power to reconstruct a body.
It seems as though in the WoW universe, something similar is going on. These are spiritual, abstract beings that can use their innate spiritual power to construct bodies for themselves or other spiritual beings of this nature to inhabit. However, instead of in Tolkien’s universe, where these bodies generally appear naturally biological, in the WoW universe, these bodies are constructed from inert materials, and that perception is retained to some degree by the body that is formed.
In Tolkien, the strength and abilities of the constructed body is a reflection of that being’s innate spiritual (arcane, in WoW?) power. Destroying that body is a “loss” of something they had expended their power to create, so even though they don’t “die” when this body is destroyed, they are still reduced.
I’ve started viewing them something more like Ego the living planet over robots. This view also fixes a lot of things about the lore that didn’t feel great. Now, the Titans make a bit more sense and seem more powerful. Aman’thul ripped Y’shaarj from the Well of Eternity in his original “form”. He was “killed” by Sargeras along with the rest of the Pantheon, those original forms destroyed, so they now construct lesser bodies for themselves and are presumably reduced in their power.
(Also, Elune is the dead Y’shaarj. The event with Aman’thul at the Well of Eternity did something to Y’shaarj, not unlike a naaru’s changing from light to void, but in reverse. The white lady is the remains of his corpse, representing Elune… with its dark and light side.)