Elune Cutscene Anxiety Thread

it made absolute sense.

  1. only the decendant of the Prime Naaru could unlock Light’s Heart and once O’ros was killed, they used the Tear of Elune suggesting that Elune was the progenitor of all Naaru. which was backed up by Khadgar’s offhand remark that he found an ancient tome that said that Elune was present during the ordering of the universe and had a hand in creating the Naaru.
  2. in a Dev panel in WoLK Cata era they said that Velen visited Darnassus once and he noted that the way Elune communicated with the priestesses was the same way the Naaru communicated with the followers of the Light, Velen even surmised himself that Elune was a Naaru but Tyrande thought that suggestion was heretical.

It would have been a good paralell to how the Shadowmoon orcs worshiped the Dark Star K’ara on Draenor. They could have played with that Light and Shadow duality a lot more than they did, this seems to have been dropped at least for the moment but could be picked back up in the future in a Light vs Shadow lore plot. just like Shadowlands is more about Life and Death.

Elune is just as much a goddess of Light as she is Life, but she’s also Shadow. It’s hard to explain. They certainly haven’t done a good enough job explaining it. Unless they make Elune an Mu’sha entirely different beings, that’s the only way it could make sense. I’ve always suspected there is a Shadow Moon and a Light Moon, just like there is a Light Sun and a Dark/Shadow Sun… the Shadow Sun is the Jailer.

That’s why I find this Elune =“life pantheon”, just nonsense, she should have been simply a First One or a Star God…and not …a member of the Pantheon of Life, where the Earth Mother had always fit much better.

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Cosmology is overrated. That’s one lesson that you should have taken from Ulduar.

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Just because someone created the Naaru doesn’t mean it is a Naaru.

Yes, because you had to ignore everything that was Elune so far…and that was some dull attempt…to hype the Naarus…

I… do not agree. I would be more willing to accept that she was some sort of primordial and supremely powerful Constellar than a Naaru. I never really got that one. The sort of power she offers to druids does not match up with Naaru Light given powers at all.

I imagine she will look something like Tyrande did as a full fledged avatar, all covered in stars.
https://poemnuts.site/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/New-WoW-cinematic-Elune-and-Tyrandes-most-important-decision-696x392.jpg

I don’t think they’d ever step down and tone back the grander scale stuff but I really really wish they would. Or at least keep it from Azeroth’s POV.

It’s very tiring and being away from Azeroth has felt very wrong.

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yeah, as i said…a seperate being, a stargod…as old as creation itself…maybe even older…a being…what simple has to be, born of the universe itself, a nessecary tool to balance the forces who created the universe in the first place.

So, a real god, a god of the universe, An anomaly that must exist to balance the mutually destructive forces to protect creation

Human Potential!!!

I think total net sum of the Pandaren comes out as cool, recognizing that they’re “properly written” within WoW, like Zandalar and Kul Tiras.

ie they use both the “fun/good” myths/histories from the culture(s) of inspiration and the “yikes/bad” myths/histories from those same cultures

So you have Yellow Emperor Metaphor with Shaohao and the Chinese Four Symbols with the August Celestials (Fun, Good) but the Stormstout uncle is an irresponsible alcoholic (Alcoholic Asian stereotype).

You don’t walk away from Pandaria with more negative Chinese (and other East/Southeast Asian) stereotypes than positive ones.

Yet it’s our reality.

Alliance-side lore will continue to be the “neutral characters” until the end of time.

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You literally argued against Elune being a First One in my An’she thread for hundreds of posts.

Warcraft’s storyline is full of branches that have been closed off and left to dust like abandoned rail lines. The characterisation of Elune in the latest cinematic is the final nail to the coffin of this idea. Elune does not show any of the classic rigid and very much mechanical like traits of the Naaru. She’s way too organic in presentation.

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I was arguing against your solution ala “Because Elune is a First one, An’She has to be a First one too”.

and I found your argument hypocritical because you only wanted Elune there to have An’She there too. In the meantime, by the way, I am convinced that the Earth Mother will be the First One of life, so you did get your wish fulfilled, the Horde has a First One.

she couldn’t be a Constellar, because the Constellar notoriously do not have the capacity for empathy that’s why they were employed by the Titans as a failsafe for re-origination.

Unless Elune was a rare constellar who was charged over Azeroth and then learned to have empathy for it’s people, which would be a great story, no doubt, but it makes Elune a lot smaller scale than an Eternal One.

The only thing tying her in anyway to the Constellar is the fact that when she manifests in Tyrande she manifests as stars but she could also be the personification of the universe itself like the Egyptian Goddess Neith/Nut.

You literally said “Elune shouldn’t be a first one, she should stay mysterious”. Repeatedly.

lmao sure bub

Well, the Tauren were right about Lo’Sho, you know, in night elf mythology the blue child (WQ) does exist, but there she is the daughter of Elune, not the sister.
So, i expect them to be right about the earthmother aswell…and therefore even an’She. maybe the names are not correctly…but the symboliusm will be right.

This hasn’t been confirmed anywhere and is just popular speculation.

Meanwhile we have been confirmed Elune is her real name, Musha or Lun’al is not her real name, Elune values the Night Elves over any other race that worships her, and there have been zero An’she references in-game lore wise.

the Winterqueen isn´t elunes sister??? interesting…i could swore that i read it multiple times now.

I wonder how the tauren got the name of Elune wrong when they were practicing moon worship before the shadow trolls mutating was a thing. Did she just not tell them? Did they not worship hard enough or something?

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The idea that the Winter Queen = Lo’sho which you’re claiming.

That has not been confirmed anywhere.

Now if we’re told soon the Winter Queen’s name is Lo’sho, great.

At the moment? It’s just speculation. There is no Lo’sho in-game. There is no Earth Mother in-game. There is no An’she in-game.

Because you assume that the Tauren did this before the trolls, the dark trolls existed before the Tauren existed, they came into existence later at the WOE. (Tauren)

15.000 years ago, the darktrols transformed into the night elves, the empire of zul is 17.000 years ago, the fragmention of trollkind happened between this two thousand years, tauren started to exist …14000 years ago. before that time, they were yaungol.

And yaungol, as far as we know…don´t worshipped the moon.

I’m just following the line of thinking that the Tauren were practicing druids supposedly before the Night Elves learned from Cenarius.

I know Highborne worship Elune, as do Nightborne, but I don’t think it’s impossible they weren’t worshiping her first.

Tauren were worshiping the sun for a long time at least, right?

There isn’t enough about Tauren religion to really comment on my part.

Which -sucks.-