I think people are upset that by patch 1.12 a lot of previous patch content was nerfed… so it doesn’t feel like what people remember.
I have actually been saying this for like a year…and after they announced 1.12 base
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There’s going to be so many people - who have completed the dungeon in modern WoW - who are going to wipe on Thermaplugg because they have no idea what the mechanics are.
Not when it comes to raiding, we didn’t. I refuse to believe the scene had Ragnaros right. I’m praying it didn’t, or the week 1 MC clear memes are going to be reality.
To top it off people are now capped at 30 and getting “twink” gear. Of course level 27 elites will get destroyed…
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There’s straight forward and easy. And then there is what we’re seeing on beta. To be perfectly honest, it reminded me of retail. When I tried out one of the retail xpacs briefly, i was shocked how I was just running from pack to pack with 0 stops. I think it was the stream with chronically angry guy with the beared and they were doing SFK.
I was never one for low level dungeons or even dungeons in general. I got what I needed to raid then was done with them. So, if you’re telling me that they out geared and leveled the content, that’d make more sense.
Did any of those guys do Gnomer yet?
that ‘feel’ is that you were bad during classic. as was everyone.
the difference now is that the utter basic mechanic present in vanilla are really easy… the only limiting factor is how patient you are.
if you’ve been playing retail, you are used to pulling 3 pack at once, having 2 big AoE to interrupt, a healer in the back, a frontal cone to avoid , some channeled whirlwind to stun, a small array of AoE damaging ability + 2 affix to hinder your game further.
on classic… you have 1 elite + 3 normal mob, all of them with little to no abilities. no group healing, no CD rotation, no nothing… just tank and spank. Even if the mob hit hard, it’s still easy.
You might be remembering it wrong. Remember, we were all much worse than we are now in vanilla.
entrance mob are lvl 17-18. VC is lvl 21.
yeah, if you are doing red elite quest it’ll be hard. yellow elite quest are nothing special
Its straight forward as is, regardless if your lvl15 or lvl20, not much changes. Even in that video clip they used CC when necessary.
Its harder the lower level you are because you’re too low to maintain threat, soak damage, and do enough damage to clear before people start going oom. Its easier closer to lvl20 for the opposite reasons.
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The core audience of 15 years ago disagrees with you. Your generation is better now than before.
I think they pretty much know exactly what they are doing, at the end it was blizzard who crated this masterpiece.
Did they use any cc? I could have sworn i saw the tank basically run into the next room - aggro 2 packs and bring em to his party while they were finish off the rest.
You know, you guys gotta remember there was a whole other audience playing Vanilla while you were teenagers learning how to play. Get off my lawn!
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Click the link the Blue provided on the video, it goes straight to a boss fight with a sheep wandering around behind the boss. The only reason the other mob wasn’t sapped was because they pulled before the rogue could reliably get their sap off.
Not only that but that mage was on point with nova throughout the run, something I wouldn’t believe a lot of mages were good at doing back in Vanilla.
Edit: Did you actually watch the clip?
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Great work!
However, I’ve heard more complaints about non-boss elites than bosses. Have you also done these tests on elite NPC dungeon trash?
Honestly as it has been stated. It seems more like the streamers just have a lot more gear than a normal character at that level would have. Think about twinks in vanilla, they obliterated normally geared players. Gear matters a lot and part of the issue is that when leveling you rarely get good upgrades. hahahaha
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I’m positive Ragnaros was done properly. September 6 Ragnaros is dead m8. If he isn’t killed before then, I’ll donate $100 to a charity of Blizzard’s choice
The streamer I’m watching is finding that elites and non-elites melee for basically the same damage in BFD and RFK. I posted a video earlier of some ludicrous pulls they were doing at the end of BFD, with mobs at level or +2 levels.
But the boss damage has always been fine.
Could be that the damage numbers are fine, but the way mitigation is being calculated has some bugs. A legit bug with Stoneskin totem mitigating after it expired has already been found. Easily could be other bugs with mitigation affecting abilities.
oh i was talking about his SFK run.
Possible the “elite” buff isn’t applying properly?