Elephant in the Room: Can we talk about how Blizzard hates Monks?

So I guess every targeted PvP change ever is irrelevant then? What is your goal here?

Besides that nerf was really stupid and I am glad they are looking into other ways into fixing it like they did for MW. The original plan for them was way worse than what we got.

No goal just pointing out the inaccuracies of your statements. Corruptions should have never made it into pvp.

And:

Is simply not true. And I don’t have time to explain that to you nor do I want to.

Well that is just false.

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Ahahah nice :rofl:

Figured out how to quote did you? Maybe you should just stick to what you know and pve seems to be that.

You really are a salty arena troll aren’t you?

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What would you know about arena?

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Maybe post on your main and show me?

Other than the fact that mythic raids generally have a brew master in and mdi teams all play exclusively mistweaver and awc teams generally have a monk too (according to another poster I don’t follow pvp). That’s literally all branches of end game lol. Not many classes are as consistently represented in all 3.

Monks are op in PvP, they’re the best healer by far. 45 sec cooldown on life cocoon, best mobility of any healer, best throughout and good mana management too. WW monks are really good too.

According to method monks are one of the best tanks and healers for mythic plus. And MW monks are always in the MDI for obvious reasons (crane) WW monks are also very good, they have good utility and are above average when compared to all melee dps for mythic+.

That leaves… raiding. Where BM monks dominate. MW and WW monks are lackluster there (also mw had an OP build for a while) but they can’t really expect their class to be S tier at everything, can they?

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you forgot to include mobility which is undeniably a large part of Monks power budget.

WW was really good for the first 2 weeks of WoD then they nerfed it to the ground until the end of time. Then in legion they took the thing they were the best at and gave it to DH. OP’s tital has is really good point…

Yeah but have you considered that it’s not a hero class like the other 2 post-release class additions?

I’d like to see Mistweavers get their 1 sec GCD back in Shadowlands. It made DPS’ing much smoother.

I love my Monk but they do need some tuning.

If Mistweavers are going to lack a DR they need to be head and shoulders above other healers for raw throughput.
Windwalkers need more Secondary spec interaction to help their scaling and I’d love to see Strike of the Windlord make a return.
Brewmasters are just solid overall and I like what I’m seeing in Shadowlands.

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The hero class thing never lasts, assuming it is even a reasoning for a more powerful class at launch, which it really isn’t.

Blizzard just sucks at balancing, and the new hotness is always pretty hot for a bit.

Well, I’m nerfed in PVP now (verse/cocoon) also. Guess I’m good at nothing. No one at Blizzard will care but I’m not gonna waste time rerolling this late into BFA. See you in Shadowlands… Maybe.