Elemental Shaman Class Tuning -- March 8

It hasn’t been a problem since 8.0 when the current iteration of SE was given the CDR.

And it isnt a problem now. Blizzard has done almost ZERO communication for elemental shamans in their class thread, despite the fact there is THOUSANDS of players feedback.

I absolutely believe they seen elemental was going to be competitve, and decided to gut it.

So, screw the many for the few?
Those who wish to play Elemental dont HAVE to play this build. You being “understanding” and players like such, are the reason classes get these types of HORRIBLE, spec killing changes, that DO NOT reflect said spec communities wishes.

And MY GOD, THIS WASNT AN ISSUE WHEN ENHANCMENT SHAMANS WERE SPAMMING STORM STRIKE ALL OF BFA. But, alas, now it is.

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The weirdest part about this change is we raided and even complained about a version of this spec back in 8.3 and it was never a concern enough to nerf. Now all of a sudden they are stuck with this really weird logic that accessibility is an issue in an even less spammier version of the spec.

Why dont they nerf every other high apm spec while they’re at it?
Fury, nerf it too fast.
Demo, nerf… too high apm
Enh? Same thing lets go…

This is ridiculous

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This might be one of the most ridiculous decisions made in a long time by Blizzard. And justifying it by saying its due to an “accessibility issue” is even worse considering you didn’t buff anything in return to compensate, it’s a flat out nerf making the build completely unviable and forcing shamans to run a build with a 15% lower ST dps when we’re already underperforming. Please reconsider, at least to give us some buffs in return, so we dont think that you killed our spec before we even got to try it out with tier sets. Thanks.

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This is a ridiculous change that makes zero sense. If this was truly just an accessibility issue, then instead of an outright nerf, you should have adjusted something else to compensate for the loss in DPS, but instead you did nothing.

Once again you used a sledgehammer to make your change when you should have been using a scalpel.

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This is one of the worst changes I have ever seen. This is going to kill the spec, not to mention the fact that this change is going to take place before people even get their 4 set! Please don’t go through with this it’s going to be insanely bad for the spec.

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We are the bottom of DPS in almost ever fight in the new raid and are getting nerfed BIG time. Your are going the wrong way with this we need increase damage to CL LB AND Lava burst.

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This makes no sense.

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just quit this dumpster fire of a game. blizzard lutsche meinen schwanz

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You need to use this as an opportunity to open a dialog with Ele shamans. We were completely ignored in the PTR Class set build, where the community gave all kinds of suggestions to improve the spec in areas where it was lacking. To come in and destroy the only build that was actually competitive in raid, along with absolutely gutting this spec in M+, is unacceptable. Blizz needs to be in here responding to concerns and providing updates.

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i’d like to know who said they did not feel confortable with the playstyle, its not like we have a lot of builds available for us, now you nerf the spec but give nothing in return, not even a buff to the poor dead living magma totem?

So, let me get this straight.

You understand that playing this way was a trouble, which I agree but at the same time you’re nerfing Ele and not even doing ANYTHING to compensate for this nerf?

What kind of madness is this? Why not buff them?

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Please dont do this. Elemental sham is middle of the pack performance at absolute best already. This is the one fun part of the build. We have no damage cds outside of storm elemental and even then it is extremely situational as you have to build up for 30 seconds just to get 15 seconds of damage. The one fun part of the spec will no longer exist.

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i mean, yeah, the storm ele gameplay is kinda boring, where you just spam either lightning bolt or chain lightning but as you say, its the only viable build we have lol

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I Just checked the feedback forum regarding “accessibility” “comfortability” etc.

THERE IS 1. YES ONE post regarding a SLIGHT discomfort.

You guys are out of your god damn minds.

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Kind of mind boggling that you had a whole ptr cycle to iterate on this but instead you drop a ham-fisted nerf a couple weeks after the patch drops. Surely there’s a more elegant solution to be found here. How about a modest ramping damage buff or an increase to the number of CL jumps? Seems like there are plenty of ways to fix the issue without gutting the talent.

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So let me get this right…

If I have a crab claw for a hand, so playing anything other than BM hunter where I only need to press 1 & 2 feels uncomfortable, it should be nerfed?

I don’t even play elemental shaman - This is a terrible justification lmao.

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Elemental is barely mid tier in all forms of content. Niches like Kel Thuzad are few and far between, its single target is anemic, and its aoe is sustained rather than bursty, and substantially lower than some other sustained specs, yet you have decided to neuter one of the only mechanics keeping the spec afloat? Come on, I’m not a fan of spamming lightning bolt, (chain lightning is better), but if you’re going to try and fix the playstyles carpal tunnel inducing potential, don’t gut the spec and leave it bleeding on the side of the rode

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You bring up a good point actually.

Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) if this was a job, and someone with crippled hands like that dude off scary movie (“Here! Use mah strong hand”) was seeking accomodations for their work… It could not create an undue hardship on employees or company.

It is common sense that you don’t make changes for the few that creates a hardship (or in this case nerf) on the many.

Ret paladins should be rioting for ramps in these raids instead of all these steps!

Please don’t do this

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