I would say that is a bad thing. It would be better if the corruptions were more balanced/nerfed, and the damage came from the specs own abilities.
After the awesome class fantasy of Legion, it’s pretty lame seeing the top damage of almost every spec coming from generic Corruptions and Essences.
Yes, but as I already said in another reply, it helps other tanks at the very least. More damage is never a bad thing.
And they can do that with actual class balance instead of relying on probably sub 1% overall droprates to do something. EV/TD didn’t “fix” guardian druids because a guardian druid that has rolled like only crit corruptions or something is still bad.
It’s the last patch of a terrible expansion for tanking overall.
Let them have this.
I disagree vehemently with you about tank damage, but I gotta say, this was pretty darn funny.
it annoys me the same as it does anyone with a really good corruption piece. it only annoys me when they attempt to lord their dps over you like it has anything to do with their ability.
you can tell when you look at the information which players are relying completely on their corruption and which ones aren’t, and its usually the ones who do that are the most annoying.
Tanks having more damage on skittish weeks is pretty needed at this point. The damage some players are pushing out is yanking aggro off tanks without cooldowns. I’m personally giving the tank a head start on aggro and it’s still happening.
I don’t get what all the complaining is about. Are they beating a dps in damage?Absolutely not. Are they even close? No. All dps specs, even average ones, will be able to beat the dps of a tank. Take this thread, Someone pissed because a tank is pulling 28k average at the end of a dungeon and blaming a corruption for it. Meanwhile dps in the previous patch were already pulling above 55k average. Now dps are pulling 70k. Mind, I don’t have the corruption in question, and I’m lower ilevel than the tank in this thread, yet I’m pulling 24k average.
If you are losing to tanks in DPS in M+ you are the problem. You are bad.
I have 0 corruption. Literally the only thing i have is crit chance % on my hands. I still do more than double the tanks damage in every key I do. It’s not close. And I have never seen a tank come close to DPS damage in any key I have done.
Corruption is freakin stupid but at least be willing to admit when you are the problem.
Cody, you’re also playing one of the most flavor of the month specs in the game, that is known for being ridiculously broken in cleave/AoE situations. You don’t really have room to talk. You can take a blue parser, stick them on an outlaw rogue in mythic+ and they will time 15s with the right comps.
I am in the camp you shouldn’t get a 15%+ damage increase from winning the lottery and then putting zero effort and getting 100% of the value of that upgrade. At least the secondary stat ones require you to still at least play decently to get something out of them.
Logs are virtually pointless this tier because gear makes the character way more than it used to. I could do literally nothing different from last week to this week and I am going to do about 6% more damage to bosses this week because I upgraded my boots to tier 3 infinite stars from tier 2.
Would you prefer I do it on my hunter? Can do it there too?
Or how about my shadow priest?
Bad players are bad. Corruption is stupid, but if people can’t beat a tank on dps its their fault.
Like I’ve repeated many times now, I have had no issues beating tanks in DPS. I have, however, seen other DPS having an issue with this.
The point still rests that no class should magically get a passive 45% increase to their AoE dps just because they got lucky.
The solution is simple, all the low performing dps never want to be beat by a tank, unless the tank is a friggin whole expansion and 300 item levels above them or they get to afk. WOD and MOP had tanks as hero classes basically that could keep up with dps but needed to take the brunt of the damage to do the output so a say, equally heroic geared bear could do like 80% of the dps of a dps on st and 100% of the damage on a aoe fight.
A mythic geared tank could easily beat a lfr dps and then the lfr dps threw a fit and nerfed it so now even a mythic geared tank spec with a fking atrocious soloing rate of 12-18k dps is a 90% VDH parse is absolutely god awful for soloing. Anytime i want to do a world boss that would take about 2-3 minutes in a dps spec, i’d have to wait 5-10x longer to do it in a tank spec. i DON’T have time to spend 5-20 minutes on a 3-9m hp world boss only for a fing tbag squad of 7x 200k hordes to tbag about their ‘skill’ pvping a god awful useless tank spec in pvp. People complain about the tank:DPS imbalance, but we can’t quest in it without everything being 4x longer and you can do open world content or professions while you que so no big deal. Plus tank specs aren’t even balanced at all. Some are completely op all expansion and no one bats a eye or others are completely unviable.
Tanks are supposed to have low dps… It’s the tradeoff. You aren’t supposed to be able to easily solo 9mil hp world bosses, as a dps in current content ilvl; unless they are kitable. By switching to tank spec, yes, you become invicible on most high health rares(unless they stack a debuff dot or something like some of the rares), but you’re trading off dps for survivability.
If you want to see big flashy numbers, spec dps. That’s literally the role’s job.
then they’re bad. good players outdamage bad players, news at 11.
or, ok, to be fair, maybe not bad. maybe the tank outgears them. The same stands… geared tanks outdamage ungeared dps, news at 11.
neither of these things are a problem.
so ask to nerf corruption procs across the board then, not just for tanks.
Completely bad!!!
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Percent based abilities are terrible imo.
And corruption ones are even worse because they’re passive, and require no player input. Imagine if fire mages just randomly procced Greater Pyroblast.
They’re also required for any dps that can make good use of them.
So, once again Blizzard has forced everyone onto the loot treadmill of RNG. Instead of trying to get a titanforged piece, your trying to get rank 3 of a specific corruption. So it’s RNG with an extra layer of RNG
Yay titanforged 2.0
I will say however, I do like corruption in the sense that you can customize which corruptions you wear. You can run one really good corruption with like +75, or stack multiple lower rank +25 ones, and sort of build your own “set”
So there’s that at least 🤷
yep. but this is, imo, the worst one we’ve seen to date.
the disparity between those who have great corruption and those who don’t is unreal. All other things being equal, those who don’t will never be competitive.
That’s true.
Having a full titanforged set would put you a few thousand dps above someone that didn’t, but now, having echoing void will put you probably 10k above someone that doesn’t. And that’s 1 piece of gear.
Imagine once our cloaks are maxed and you can wear more pieces
Also, higher gear won’t even help close the gap because the procs are % based and just scale with the wearer. The higher gear you get, the more not having a specific corruption will hurt you