Dying to Evoker is once again a mark of shame

[Novachrono-area-52]

its not even a real spec lol its just channeled damage with some burst thrown in…very lazy design…augment only mattered because they gave them an instant cast MONSTER HITTING ability that couldnt be dealt with just to cover up the fact that the class doesnt actually do very much outside of said burst other than flounder around until dampening.

IF THEY SURVIVE THAT LONG (devoker)

[Zlyrax-moon-guard]

Devoker damage is never not bad

But the lack of utility is crippling and unfun

Wouldn’t hurt if we had more anti-rdps defense either

[Aovona-sulfuras]

Yes and their newly added spec is D tier. There are rank 1 Evokers out there who got their Rank 1 on their Evoker, not on another toon. But that one was a very skilled player. The class as a whole is ultimately really bad and needs a bit of help.

[Nishalethen-moon-guard]

@Kaivax

• Evoker
• Azure Strike damage increased by 40% in PvP combat.
• Time Stop (PvP talent) cooldown reduced to 45 seconds (was 1 minute).
• Chrono Loop (PvP talent) cooldown reduced to 45 seconds (was 1 minute).
• Augmentation
  • Upheaval damage reduced by 10% in PvP combat.
  • Eruption damage increased by 15% in PvP combat.
• Preservation
  • Dream Flight healing increased by 100% in PvP combat.
  • Mana regeneration now reduced by 5% in PvP Combat (was 10%).

I mean, it’s a start I guess, a shame about Augmentation again but it does make the weird invuln and that other ability more enticing(?)

[Amyrii-echo-isles]

I never even took dream flight as preservation. Looks like it could be good now

[Kennie-malganis]

@Kaivax

Augmentation

• Upheaval damage reduced by 10% in PvP combat.

[Msdoubtfire-eranikus]

@Nishalethen-moon-guard

but it does make the weird invuln and that other ability more enticing(?)

Time Stop is just such a liability, and -15sec CD won’t change that aspect of its design.

The fact that it immunes any friendly CDs sent into it makes it dangerous to press, which is the opposite of what you want in a defensive, especially in uncoordinated play like RSS.

Doesn’t help the situation of evokers flopping in a stun either. Obsidian Scales should be useable in stuns like most other walls in the game.

15 seconds off Chrono Loop is… nice, I guess? Evoker’s so stuffed with invaluable PvP talents it’s difficult to justify taking it much of the time regardless.

[Zlyrax-moon-guard]

Doesn’t Chrono suck because it can be dispelled?

And Time Stop is cool, but it isn’t a shuffle talent, that’s fo sho

[Durkda-anvilmar]

@Kaivax

ime Stop (PvP talent) cooldown reduced to 45 seconds (was 1 minute).

This talent has become a lock in for me on almost every match. Loving this buff

@Zlyrax-moon-guard

And Time Stop is cool, but it isn’t a shuffle talent, that’s fo sho

With great power comes great responsibility.

[Priamhark-moon-guard]

Tfw YouTube tier lists don’t man diddly in an environment where hex gets broken, traps slide off screen and the feral clones the kill target

[Evokes-moon-guard]

evoker damage is passable as dev, you can burst people down and nuke them. Biggest issue imho is vulnerability to roots during hover, or just the fact anything can kill you as dev. If theyre gonna give evoker a shorter range, they needa compensate that with either better defensives or more damage.

[Lasso-shattered-hand]

@Msdoubtfire-eranikus

useable in stuns like most other walls in the game.

Wonder what game you play

[Smaugboi-tichondrius]

Dev is finally playable again. Aug is awful was nerfed into the ground. and pres is the worst healer in the game currently.

[Fyshles-frostmourne]

@Smaugboi-tichondrius

pres is the worst healer in the game currently.

Hardest healer in the game.* Pres is still very well balanced outside of rdruid it just requires you to play super offensive while weaving casted healing abilities.

[Darkzugger-faerlina]

@Dabdaddy-dawnbringer

if you want high quaility whine threads you can just vote me into the community council and watch as i gaslight you but with gold text

If you make the gaslighting obvious, I’ll vote for ya.

Would be good for a laugh

[Adroi-tichondrius]

@Nishalethen-moon-guard

a shame about Augmentation

That the spec hasn’t been deleted? Given how incredibly busted it was, it can stay in the gutter.

[Manfighting-westfall]

Issue is we need Unburdened Flight and Obsidian Mettle just to function baseline. No kiting without the former and our damage is too preventable to be threatening without the latter. If the enemy team has any brainpower they can throw 2 interrupts into a devoker that isn’t running it, after they pop Dragonrage, and turn the game into a 2v3.

So that leaves one open talent which is defaulted to Scouring Flame. Whenever I drop it that’s usually for spammable sleep, and Chrono Loop just isn’t more valuable. Time Stop is, as has been pointed out, a liability. Loop is now slightly more appealing in situations where I won’t get good use out of breath purge and I have a warlock on my team, but that is rare.

I’ve been saying it for ages now but we need spammable sleep and Swoop Up baseline. If the spec ends up too strong afterwards you can dial back some of its damage. Would feel so much better for the rest of this expansion while we wait for a proper design pass for next expansion.

[Warzog-wyrmrest-accord]

@Nishalethen-moon-guard

a shame about Augmentation

I think you mean, “Thank god about augmentation.” Can you imagine last season’s Aug with this season’s UH/DH/Arms? Anything else would unplayable.

[Cenwar-illidan]

@Msdoubtfire-eranikus

in stuns like most other walls in the game.

Hmmmm. Is it actually “most”???

Druid, lock …. Can pally? Who else?

[Slythize-stormrage (Slythize)]

@Nishalethen-moon-guard

a shame about Augmentation again

As someone who is now playing devastation as alt

I decided to watch some videos of augmentation that were awhile ago and that spec needs to have 0 viability in pvp compared to dev/pres