What the devs need to do.
Is coded the duo que system to only start grouping/start when the other team also has a duo que group and such.
Duo queue keeps queue times short because dps players ask their healer friends to play with them.
It is an advantage but it’s also a small advantage. But it makes the game mode better overall because the queue times are shorter.
If you want the advantage make 1 friend. I know making 1 friend seems like a lot but even you can do it. Or go to LFG and look for someone to queue with.
If you want a healer to do what you want all the time.
Roll one 
Cool, it isn’t going to get changed, just like all of the hopium from some of the spergs on the forum waiting for blizzard to ban epic bg premades/premades in general.
People trying to prevent people from playing together is just a cop out excuse for losing or lack of ability. End of discussion.
They can’t do that, no one will take them, that’s why they demanded a solo queue option in the first place.
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Well said.
“I want to do a dungeon” - Me
“Cool go sign up for a raid” - You
What an intelligent response. No, I want to do the content I enjoy which is battlegrounds. I play a lot of battlegrounds
You’re right, and I partake in quite a bit of it. Quite a bit more than you from the looks of it. Not sure how that was a response to what I said but glad we cleared that up?
The “reason” I mentioned in what you quoted was that duos should be removed because “people defending duo’s can’t do it without attacking the person”. That’s the reason you said you wanted duo’s removed. That reason makes no sense
It was
This is a silly line of thinking, made by silly people who don’t want to make friends, in a game where grouping has been a base part of the game since day one.
I do play arena, but not nearly as much as I do battlegrounds.
It sounds like you should be going and playing 2v2 arena. It seems to have everything you want
That’s your opinion. Clearly a lot of people have another opinion and don’t agree with you. Including the game developers
That’s how you would see it, yes, especially after you lose. “I played against a duo, I lost, this is unfair, time to throw a temper tantrum”. Zero thought into maybe I had a duo on my team. Maybe I had two duos on my team. If I lose I look for the easiest, most accessible excuse I can find
It’s an advantage that everyone has access to. Roll a healer and heal or find a healer friend and join with them.
And if it’s such a “massive” advantage as you say then don’t worry about it, because every duo will always sky rocket to the top of the ladders where you’ll never see them…apparently.
Right here.
Do you want a healthy bracket? You gotta have the healers. Do you want the healers? Let them bring a friend.
It’s a no-brainer. If a DPS bringing their favorite healer is enough to tilt the match, then your inability to stun and CC the healer is causing your team to lose, not 2 other people working well together.
If you’re still at a loss, let me help you…
/cast [@focus] Kick
/cast [@focus] Counterspell
/cast [@focus] Silence
/cast [@focus] Countershot
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I don’t want to play 2v2 arena, I want a solo queue rated BG system as was originally promised.
A few very specific people disagree, and most of them are actively benefitting from the duo queue system. In other words, their opinions are irrelevant for the same reason no one took twinks seriously on the subject of twinking.
Ask anyone who plays solo, regardless of skill level, and they overwhelmingly agree that duo queues are a huge advantage. In a game mode where you’re not allowed to use food buffs and potions because that small stat buff is considered an unfair advantage. You are not nearly as much of a majority as you think you are.
Not actually an argument, although you do need to justify why two people should get an advantage at the expense of 6-8 other people.
It’s actually not.
You mean to tell me you don’t think a duo who exclusively play together will not perform better on average than a strictly solo player?
I mean, it’s possible, but I doubt it’d be the norm. On average you’d expect two people who always play together to perform better than two random solo players.
Not an argument, also just disconnected from reality. We’ve had some form of group-oriented, structured PVP since Burning Crusade, people who like to play solo finally get a bone thrown their way and group-ies immediately cry that they’re not being included.
You’re not subtle, you want the benefits of playing pug content but also the advantages inherent in having organized play.
I guess I am just overall confused on how a duo breaks blitz.
The only thing it does is bring in more healers to a game mode that desperately needs more healers to play…
to be fair I do think they should open it up to all DUOS should be allowed for fairness because I know two dps friends like to play together as well. But the main reason they allow it is because the game modes neeeeeed healers. Let me tell you it is soooooo much fun having to run around and heal idiots all day and then get constantly blamed for them sitting in the enemy spawn and wondering why they died.
At least you can coordinate with 1 person and brings a bit more enjoyment.
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I’m not trying to be.
Since Blitz became rated, I haven’t played it as a Duo, but I’m happy that I can if I want and it’s nice that others have the same choice available to them.
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Like would it be more fair for people if one team gets a duo the other team has to have one as well? If that is the case then should the entire team be made up of duo queues because the one person who actually just wants to sign up and play random is the only random and everyone else has friends bleh bleh bleh.
I feel like this post is on the same lines as people screaming that FC’s should have no movement abilities and should just walk slowly across the field and be slaughtered for their enjoyment.
So you do understand that telling me to do 2s was weird. I never, at any point, said I wanted to play 2s and yet you told me to
Duo queue has been a thing for healers since the start, as promised. You misunderstood the game mode and the reasons why they introduced duo queuing. That’s on you
There are just as many people advocating for duo queue in this thread than there are people who are against it
Who said people advocating for duo queue are a majority? Nobody.
You’re misunderstanding this, you (those who are against solo queue) are also in a minority. There aren’t only two sides to this: people for duo queue and people against it. There’s a third party, the people who don’t care, the people who are just happy they can queue up for a rated mode and play. The neutral party who don’t care are the overwhelming majority here, you just don’t hear their side because…they don’t care
That being said, if queue times sky rocket because duo queue is removed I can guarantee a large portion of that neutral bunch will be very unhappy
Or none, because both sides have equal opportunity to have a duo
Still lacking in reading comprehension? What is it, 3 times now I’ve said of course I think duo queue is an advantage? A very limited advantage at best. They will perform better, to a small extent. A lobby full of 2200 players with only 1 duo aren’t guaranteed a win because one side has a duo and the other doesn’t. That’s still a lot of very good players in that lobby, most of who likely work well and coordinate without coms. You don’t just instantly win because you have a duo
Yes, exactly. On average, two people who play together will perform better. That’s not what you said earlier, you said they have an overwhelming advantage. This implies that terrible players if duo queuing raise their rating well beyond what they would be able to do alone. This isn’t true, I’m playing at 2200 mmr solo queuing and with a friend we got to the exact same. As soon as I run into better players than me, whether duo or solo, I get beat down
Two (or multiple) people who synergize well, set up kills, peel, work on objectives together is what mmo pvp is about. I have far more fun doing blitz with my friend and we win maybe a game or two here that I wouldn’t if we weren’t playing together
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There’s clearly just multiple people on this thread that want to shutdown feedback and think that their opinion is the only possible correct one.
I’ll just add one final thing.
It’s extremely easy to undervalue the “best” healers in RBGs and the impact they have on games when they duo queue if you don’t play at those ratings to see what is happening. I’ve read comments like, “the game mode is being played exactly the same way as it was during the casual brawl.” It’s just not true, and when I checked the rating of the person saying that, they were 1400. It’s fine to have different perspectives, but if you aren’t playing at the highest ratings, it’s not fair for you to act as if you know exactly how advantageous duo qing can be.
In my opinion, and since duo queue will most certainly stay a thing, dps should be able to duo queue together. And if that means a longer queue, that should be their choice.
And to save you the trouble of looking me up, I am currently 2601 CR in BG Blitz. I’ve solo que’d about 80% of my games.
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You want something you made up in your head then .
BGB had duo since it was announced.
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You are getting some heat for this but duo queue is definitely OP. Every high rated healer that I know in blitz right now is duo queuing. The heat is appropriate because duo queue is actually good for the game.
It makes sense that it is OP though. I mean theres only 8 players, if you queue with someone you are already making up 2/8 of the group which is huge. 1 good dps and 1 good healer can absolutely carry a blitz match, and thats assuming everyone else is not great but you will have other good players too. If 2 very good players have comms as well thats an even bigger advantage.
However, I don’t think theres anything wrong with duo queuing. I actually think it saves blitz for a lot of players. I went 4-3 so far, and in every game I am blasting dmg/healing, usually topping healing by a large margin and getting orbs or spinning flags etc. If I queued all of those games with a good dps friend, that would likely be 7-0 or 6-1 at the least and I will probably do that going forward. It just saves the mental anguish of playing with a full dps team that is mentally afk and not listening to any call outs or instructions.
edit- the one complaint that should be made is how imbalanced matches can be. One team can have 2 rogues on a flag carry map while the other team has none, one team can have a MW/disc or MW/pres while the other has hpal/rsham. This was expected but I do think there should be some sort of “swap” system at least for dps where for example if a team has 0 rogues and the other has 2 rogues, the game swaps a rogue with a non stealth dps from the other team so its 1:1. If there is a duo queue in the group it can avoid swapping people that were in a party together possibly.
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This is the correct answer!
I solo queue only and I couldn’t care less who’s duo queuing. Doesn’t make or break my day. It’s a solo queueable mode with rewards. Sign me up!
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Shantarin is just bad/mad because no one will play with them. This is a social game, not your dark attic where you can sit and write War and Peace-esque Tumblr blogs about the mean duo queuers/premades who hurt you.
It was out during S3 and S4 of DF as a test Brawl. It had the same rating system it does now even as a brawl. Then it was there for all of pre-patch in it’s rated form.
This is kind of the issue with PvPers right now. A lot of this stuff is out for testing in some shape or another, but the majority ignore until it’s live. Not saying you have to test it yourself but the info has been out there.
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Solo Queue RBGs are here though? So queue for it.