It’s great if this is your goal. It’s also ok when you don’t get this if this is your goal. Leveling is such a joke right now that I don’t know why people are willing to sacrifice the quality of gameplay to make it even more of a joke. I have to be entirely honest there.
Haven’t we given up enough quality for convenience already? Be honest with yourself.
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What was your peace? Lol
You’ve done these dungeons, but don’t know the layouts?
You want to qq about tanks speed running, but “its not worth tanking” yourself?
Your points contradict each other and it sounds like you just want to complain to complain.
Fun detected. You don’t like how other people play and you refuse to do the role. You offer no solutions or really anything other than complaining.
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there is no quality of gameplay in leveling dungeons
they’re a chore which must be got though
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That is a design problem.
This is a symptom of that being a design problem.
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I don’t disagree, but it’s what we have
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Yeah nobody complains when it’s a good run
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Wish people would stop blaming the players for Blizzard’s garbage game design, they are just playing with what they are given.
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Just waiting for blizzard to implement the all new follower dungeons. If you put the NPC as leader you can just put your character on follow and it will run the dungeon for you and then you can get to more important things like cleaning the house. Also as long as the NPC is in the lead you will get normal dungeon experience.
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I mean we could make queued content harder than go back to kicking the worst player like 3-5 times in a row until the dungeon is completed
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I wasn’t one of the people that cried during Cataclysm.
okay so he is running at 126% which you can keep up with ORRR he is running at 156% but that means he is killing mobs not just skipping them all.
Since he is pulling aggro as long as you don’t do anything you won’t get aggro just keep running after him. You’ll get credit when he downs the last boss then you leave group.
If you’re a bit slow leaving group you leave after the mobs get you but before ressing.
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If they can’t be skipped, they can’t skip them. This is a real non-issue.
Yeah, once the dungeon is cleared people usually head out.
Basically all of this boils down to “communicate” though. If you need quests/side bosses/whatever, talk with the group. If the majority wants it and the tank ignores you, vote to kick.
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That’s the sad part.
Most of the time, if you ask. People are more than willing to help or side track.
“Hey do y’all mind if we kill x for a quest?”
Works most of the time.
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its timewalking dungeons… there isn’t quality there to begin with. its just old content.
Don’t attack anything until the tank stops his pull and stacks the group for cleave damage and you will not have this issue.
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Its very simple.
If they put up two queues, one for “normal” runs, and one for “speed” runs, the “normal” queue would be a wasteland.
Not saying no one would queue for them, just very, very few.
I like the L11 twink tanks making the 5 TW dungeons simply a matter of holding down the W key and click Accept on the reque for 20m and being done with it.
Some folks want to “be there” and do “dungeon” stuff.
I don’t.
I want the shiny at the end, I want the quest done. I’ve lived these dungeons for decades. The content is not interesting. The fights are not interesting. And it’s not like the other bots in the party are engaged in sparkling conversation.
Over and done, the sooner the better.
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Very true, although when I want to level a new toon from 0-80 I quest. It takes longer and I have a quality experience. I stay away from runs on those toons (other then for related quests) because that is +1-2 levels on my toon who is locked into an xpac I wasnt around for the release. If anything I would like it if they allowed me to finish the quest lines of those xpacs without getting rocketed into TWW and diminishing my immersion.
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If your agenda is different than the vast majority of players, why do you think the game should be adjusted just for you?
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Just sit AFK at the entrance while the level 11 tank solos the dungeon. If any loot drops, the postman will send it to you. He’ll even send you gray trash. Alt-tab out and watch something. There’s a new season of Vox Machina, I suggest that.