Dungeon mechanics have become too complex to be fun

This is subjective i still enjoy the dungeons. 90% of the mechanics still boil down to the basics, kill adds, dont stand in bad, kick spells.

Maybe, but it’s not information you didn’t have access to prior.

A digital speedometer can definitely lower cognitive load, too, it’s just disingenuous to even suggest that this is significant in any fashion.

But that’s par for the course with you. Choose a side and stick to it regardless of the reality around you.

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End of the day, WoW’s fight design is as much or more about defeating or at least overloading the add-ons in your arsenal as it is about challenging you.

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I can do every fight in this game without add-ons.

In fact, for my AotC run, DBM was off and I had no WAs. (Except a tracker for MSW.)

No, normal and heroic dungeons have always been easy. I’m talking about keys.

Oh I’m not talking about delves at all. I think they’re fine.

If your attention was on enough things that you didn’t absorb that information without the warning then it kind of is, isn’t it?

Is there a reason that add-ons exist and are popular?

I’m sorry you’re going through that, but it beats the alternative! At least you have the memories still.

For the same reason there’s a convenience store on the corner of so many streets.

It isn’t rocket science.

Close!

It’s actually for the same reason that spellcheckers and things like grammarly exist.

Because they make specific tasks easier and lessen the amount of load put on the brain.

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These are the same reason.

Also can you make your point? It’s not subtle, so just get it out so you can stop doing this weird ‘lead on’ thing.

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You don’t understand the difference in “convenience” between something like distance and mental/knowledge checks?

Sure, dude. Can you make your point so we can get past the pissing match and I can just shut you down as usual?

And it takes lower and lower levels and ratings of them to get KSM and KSH now. You used to not even be able to get KSE with what some of the currents are getting KSMs on now.

While I can empathize a bit, I cannot help but laugh in Eorzean at this topic.

Less the mechanics and more of the people exacerbating the mechanics at this point for WoW, really.

What’s wrong with interrupts?

Throws a bazillion shields

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I used to have a lot of fun at lower end keys with my guild, many of whom may just be getting into the game or learning their classes. A lot less keys are run now in guild, and I think that might have something to do with it.

For myself, I usually get KSH every season - I’ve just sorta stopped pushing because I have no motivation to do so. I think it just feels too laborious to me - so there’s that. I’ll get it before the season ends, but I find it an annoying task rather than fun (I didn’t have this problem in DF).

I think Blizzard doesn’t quite have all the nobs turned correctly on M+ balance, and I miss the lower key tiers (not for myself - I found it annoying having to go through them) but for my guildmates that I had a lot of fun with in those key tiers, and got them used to dungeons.

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Let’s not forgot the DF Chromie dungeon tanking the dragons on a yellow floor with yellow swirlies and a yellow frontal. Quality design, am I right?

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Ion once said that he wants it to be a hard game. But “hard” is such an ambiguous word. There could be zero mechanics, but really tight timers leading to really high dps requirements, causing a dungeon to be hard. That’s just one example. I think the way they have decided to Make the game hard is just to annoy everyone to death.

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You’ll ignore it and continue to be obtuse, so why bother? Clearly a refrigerator has the same impact on one as a self-driving car because both are meant for convenience. When you boil it all down to some kind of caveman definition that is.

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When is the last time I ignored your point?

I’m aggressive, not a troll.

A refrigerator preserves food. It being convenience would require you to not be participating in a consumer market. Under the context that you aren’t and have a steady, stable source of fresh food, yes. A refrigerator is just convenience.

You’re making a comparison between add-ons in a video game that use Blizzard’s API (i.e. objectively the information that exists WITHOUT the add-ons) and having a vehicle or not.

But sure, dude. I’m obtuse. Not the “walking 10 miles is equivalent to not using an add-on in WoW” guy.

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