So I’m seriously inquiring about why there is a 5 dungeon lockout cap per hour? I can understand for the most part why they implemented the 30 lockout per 24 hours but with this new implementation why still have the 5/hour lockout?
If someone is gonna grind/boost dungeons does it really matter how many they do per hour if the end result is caping at 30 in 24 hours?
All serious and troll responses welcome
The lockout cap of 5 in one hour is a very complicated discussion, but if I were to try and simplify it down to the purest forms.
The best answer I heard was to slow down gold farming. In Classic a mage can one pull a full instance. The 5 per hour was Blizzard trying to put some kind of upper bound limit on farming.
I don’t know if I agree with it or believe it is the real reason, but it was the best answer I have heard on the subject.
This was covered when Classic launched too:
I don’t know if anyone ever came up with a definative or agreed reason, but there is the thread for you to look over if you like.
I doubt that was the reason. The 5 lock out per hour predates mages 1 pulling instances like they do today.
So I guess they thought no one could reach 30 dungeon cap in 24 hours when first implemented? Because if the same mage was only able to farm 5 dungeons every hour for up to 30 dungeons in 24 hours and also run 30 dungeons in 24 hours without the 5/hour lockout they would produce the same amount of gold in that 24 hour window.
Hey, I did not say I agreed with it or even believed it. It was just the only reason I heard that was even remotely plausible.
Every other reason was so far out in left field it was laughable.
The 5 instance cap was actually a hardware limitation back in the day.
I wondered about that too. Back in the day, all instances ran on a separate “Instance Server” and all the instances for that realm ran on it. The 5 an hour limit could keep server thrashing down. It does have a plausible ring to it. Not sure why it was kept around though if that is the real reason.
Again, just pure speculation. I have nothing to back that idea up with either. And I doubt we would get a real response from Blizzard on it either way.
Point being, they did not back down on the 5/hr. limit in Classic and I doubt they would for TBC Classic either.
Seeing that dungeons were designed to be cleared appropriately leveled parties of 5 over the course of 30-90 min, I don’t see why they’d raise the cap.
This is the more realistic answer, blizzard could have fixed the various abuses people were doing that was taking them over 5 instances per hour or 30/day but they simply capped the number of runs.
I suppose they could have. Not sure exactly what would be involved… Also, more than the 5/30 runs just seems excessive. I suspect the instance cap was an easier, more pragmatic fix.
I think you’ve got it wrong, the 5 cap has been in the game for a very long time.
The 30 cap was added partway through Classic.
For retail I don’t see why it should be lifted (Even though I know I will hit the 30 cap in TBC launch due to dungeon leveling).
However in retail this would be a large issue with the whole transmog thing which is why I’m pretty sure dungeons were raised to 10/h with no daily cap. (Could be wrong on that).
So with that as the access. I am definitely going to have to lean on the reasoning that is “No reasonable player should be hitting the 5/hour or 30/day cap with normal play”.
My “Must level to 70 asap in dungeons” plan would be consider abnormal play. Which is what Blizzard may want to go against. A long with things like Mage farming, attempting to limit bots to some extent etc.
5/Hour may have been a technical limitation back in the day, but that simply isn’t the case anymore.
I think would very much like to see no instance limit. However, I intend to have quite a few level 70s. So presuming I hit the 30 instance limit, I will simply switch to another character. Bots would do the same. Now days when those bot mages hit 30 instances, they log into a second mage, and keep going. It never slowed them down.
Well imagine if their wasn’t…
Gathering professions would pretty much exists solely in dungeons. Literally infinite gravemoss / fadeleaf for any 60. Infinite mitril ore, ghost mushroom, blindweed from mara. Get a three man into DM and do a jump run in 5 minutes.
Dungeons have great loot, gating that is important.
The 5 man cap was added partway through vanilla. While donkles may be correct about it being a hardware limitation, i remember reading somewhere that it was meant to combat gold sellers, even back then. (Tho that was 15 years ago, memories are not always accurate at that range…lol)
Still, i know gold selling was such a problem during vanilla that i got an addon to block all the spam tells (Which were about 3-4 an hour). And as Torr mentioned right above this post. Look at the gravemoss fadeleaf farm. 5 lockouts of armory and GY take about 15 minutes, then you have to come back 45 minutes later. That slows down that farm to 1/4th of what it would be otherwise.
There are a ton of farms that existed even back then that are gated by the limit.
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