Dual Specialization

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You can find a blue post defending everything in the game, even things that were eventually changed. In the multiboxer threads those against any change linked a dozen that had the devs clearly saying over and over and over that allowing multiboxing was the intended design and it would never change.

The devs often changed their minds when they saw the consequences of their design. Just like they did with the hunter dead zone, ect. But in the end they are still corporate entities. They will defend every decision right up to the moment they realize their mistake and make a change.

There’s a guote linked that has GC saying that Wrath was not designed with dual spec in mind. When you find a quote that supports your view you treat it like the word of god and when there’s a dev quote that undermines your view you ignore it. You’re a two faced hypocrite.

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I’m using a quote within the context if what it was addressing, you’re using quotes that you take out of context to fit your agenda.

If that is being a hypocrite in your mind I guess you know the definition if words better than the dictionaries.

You are using a quote from wotlk about game design and trying to apply it to tbc game design.

I am using a quote from tbc about game design and applying it to tbc game design, which is what tbcc is trying to imitate.

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You’re lying again or you have terrible reading comprehension. I never use quotes because those little snippets from twits on twitter never convey the full story in all it’s complexity and nuance. Both sides vastly over interpret them to make they mean exactly what they want them to mean. You will not find a link to anything on twitter in any of my posts. Truly intelligent people ignore it or look at it only to gauge what’s happening among the ignorant masses. That you rely on it as the foundation of all your arguments is just a sign that you’re part of the ignorant masses.

I’ve made it clear what I think of what the devs post on twitter

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You’re so deep into your fantasy world you can’t look up far enough to see reality. In your fantasy world you think I posted

When what I actually posted in reality was

It’s laughable the way you distort everything that other people post to suit your agenda

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This is how you address anything you don’t like, you claim the person is lying.

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Well no, I see inconsistencies, explain them clearly, and offer two possible conclusions to explain them, lying or poor reading comprehension. You have only two rational ways to respond. You could produce a quote where I linked to something on twitter, as you claimed I did. Or you could claim you’re not lying but that you made a reading error. What you’re attempting is not rational but a diversion to avoid admitting that in fact you were either lying or you have poor reading skills

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I never claimed you linked a Twitter quote.

I claimed the quotes you are using for your argument are being used out of context.

You may not have directly linked them, but you reference them enough.

I guess the only explanation for you clearly misrepresenting what I said would be a reading comprehension issue or, more likely, you are lying to fit your agenda.

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But never to support my arguments. Only to point out that I don’t trust what the devs say, that they are inconsistent, and that twitter doesn’t have the depth to interpret what they devs intended nor do the devs elaborate on their internal mind changes based on their game experience. So what you’re now claiming is you didn’t understand my posts, so, a reading comprehension problem. Now if you’re not a lying hypocrite you could try to quote something were I used a dev quote to defend my arguments. But I’m sure you’ll try another diversion tactic

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As a tank who doesn’t even have an epic flying mount it doesn’t help. The overbuying of gold shouldn’t result in the elitist gold buyers being the only ones to benefit from this. You want more tanks? You need better solutions.

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I find it funny that you keep referring to Twitter quotes when I haven’t used one…

You try to twist information as best you can to meet your agenda.

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I like the fact that you cut out where I said reasonable freedom Obviously having unlimited talent points Is among the other ridiculous things that you’ve named are all unreasonable.

Because apparently you like to come up with ridiculous notions obviously and there’s a very big difference between dual spec and all of them.

It gives you more choice that’s all it’s a quality of life that’s all Is unlike all the ridiculous broken stuff that you listed you don’t go from.

average character to God mode Duel speck does not give you that.

Because again And I’ll say it Duel speck gives you reasonable player freedom meaning It’s not broken or overpowered.

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You don’t have things in perspective.

You see, to some of us, you wanting dual spec in TBC is not a reasonable freedom, because it is simply a game effecting option or capability that you never had.

And you seem to forget that with WOTLK came more talent points which allowed people to further customize their characters, true to my example.

You asking for dual spec, a freedom and feature that was only provided in WOTLK, is the same thing to me as asking for those 10 additional talent points WOTLK only provided you as well.

Your request is just as absurd on it’s face to me. You’ve simply handwaved the absurdity of adding dual spec specifically because you are a lazy player who wants to save gold to the detriment of the experience for other players.

What if I told you that if you didn’t like the idea of players getting extra talent points, you could just not use them and leave them untalented?

Get. Over. Yourself.

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Those are too completely different things I am lazy am I 1st off you don’t know anything about how I play how long I play or when I play.

For the record I’m a protection paladin and I only have a limited play time because I have a job and a life.

I’m so sorry I can eat live and breathe the game 2nd of all this is what you’re telling me and a lot of other people that do want Duel speck.

You have to play the game my way It’s because my way is the game it was originally intended to be plagued so therefore you all should do it the way I want it to be done because Is my version of tbcc.

Doesn’t include dulespeck because I liked the game without But no same faction battlegrounds are completely fine because that doesn’t affect gainplay in my opinion.

On top of that your comparing dual speck Do having an additional 10 talent points that is not the same thing at all

One increases your power dramatically the other 1 doesn’t it’s not the same thing Yeah you’re right we did have more talent points and wrath because we leveled up 10 levels duh.

As far as my request being absurd That’s your opinion I think it’s completely absurd that you have the arrogancy to sit there and say that something like same faction battlegrounds is completely fine but dual speck changes the game too much.

There is a difference between being lazy and playing the game as much as you can I don’t live eaten breathe the game because I can’t anymore thank you.

There is nothing wrong with having a choice Dual spec offers that and no it is not the same level of having 10 additional talent points one increases your power dramatically the other 1 does not.

Saying something like well if they’re going to give us dual space they might as well just give us 10 Extra telephones is just stupid.

One would change the gameplay of a lot of well classes in general the other 1 doesn’t And let me ask you this apparently the game is a good state yeah that’s why um.

People are leaving the game That’s why no matter where you look when you go on different servers everywhere you look people are having trouble filling the raids.

Pvp is Is is on a huge decline why because there’s a lot of casual people that would like to try but they’re not gonna spend a 100 gold every single time you want to respect.

And again let me remind you I’m not the only one that wants it You act like I’m sitting here screaming and shouting like Yup I’m the only one that uh only 1 data once it yeah that’s why there was a.

Another post with Over 6000 replies OK yeah you’re right clearly I’m the only one that wants it in the entirety you are completely right.

Just because you don’t want it doesn’t mean that the game wouldn’t benefit from it Not everyone should have to play the game all the time just because you like That way.

So I’m going to Just repeat what you said to me get over Yourself My opinion matters just as much as yours.

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You can have any opinion you want. I really don’t care about your opinion.

You can’t have any feature in TBCC you want.

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And you can have an opinion for it not to be in As far as can I have it well that’s not up to you or me that’s up to the Developers.

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And again I keep telling you we don’t play the game the same way we did back in 2007.

I think considering the way things have turned out that should be 100% obvious.

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This is ridiculous. Respecs exist in the game. Dual spec just makes it easier. 10 additional talent points doesn’t. Its indicative of how pathetic your arguments are that you make this idiotic comparison

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And the same can be said to you, you can be as #nochanges as you want, doesn’t mean blizzard isn’t going to make changes.

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Well I log in regularly to a completely dual-spec-less game, meanwhile you’re whinging in to the abyss for a change that Blizzard has ignored you on for almost half a year now.

So I win?

Gonna have to make up your mind.

I thought nobody respecs due to the cost?

Let me know when you nail down your position.

#flipflop

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No, you just haven’t lost yet :slight_smile:

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