Dual spec please

I never said it was exactly the same.

It had a similar experience playing it while leveling.

I leveled faster this time around, was more efficient with it, exc. But it was a similar experience.

I didn’t use any form of questy for the first character I leveled in classic vanilla. So I was reading the texts, using the map references, exc. And occasionally I used wowhead (thotbot was origional wow and was less accurate, but still).

My experience leveling in classic felt very similar to my experience leveling in actual vanilla.

If you chose to enter classic with a crao ton of addons instead of going in old school, that’s on you because you chose to do that.

It just makes it so hard to take you seriously when you blatantly lie.

So now you know my experiences lol.

How delusional are you?

No really, you are telling me what I experience was a loe because it wasn’t what you experienced.

Get out of your ignorant bubble of entitlement and realize people can have a different experience than you and doing so isn’t a lie.

Part if why I had a similar experience is because origional vanilla I leveled alliance.
For classic I leveled horde and was not familiar with the quests, I chose to not use questy or a similar addon, exc.

The biggest change I had in my leveling experience in classic compared to vanilla was I wasn’t fighting with my brothers for a shared account, instead I was playing with them. But the actual playing was very similar. I was more efficient with my time, but It was similar.

Again this seems to be the part you are having trouble understanding. It was similar, not a perfect recreation of but the experience was similar.

Dual spec however isn’t similar to tbc experience. But the wanting of dual spec is, so grats on you successfully reliving that aspect of the experience, which wouldn’t be possible if dual spec was in the game.

bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/98646792-we-need-free-respecs-or-spec-swapping/

Just coming in to post this, in case you forgot again. Short term memory loss is a real doozy, I know :slight_smile:

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No I know the vanilla launch experience vs the classic launch experience.

And I will not lie and say that the player experience was remotely similar.

I went totally old school my first run thru Classic. Only mod was titan panel. It was a very vanilla like experience. Lots of aimless treks across continents. Ran out of quests because I missed a bunch. Had to hit 60 doing dungeons and grinding mobs in Silithus - just like I did in vanilla on my first toon.

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And sadly you were playing with people who didn’t and who you included hadn’t been MIB’d.

I was playing with a crew of no fewer than 20 vanilla veterans.

I love how he is the judge of our experiences. Because he knows when we have been good or bad. He knows when we are awake, he knows what we did, when we did it, and how we felt doing it.

He also travels the entire globe in one night.

He also seems to know everything about when and what the devs wanted to add to the game during TBC it’s really weird. Like a superpower.

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You can only tell someone so many times about their win loss record when it comes to reality. Youll never win a battle with reality. Some people dont care or dont notice. Neither is worth your time.

/shrug

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You’ve just set up a false dichotomy that makes it easy for you to ignore our arguments. It’s insulting in a passive aggressive way. To post here we all have a sub so we like the game enough to pay for it. Most of us are posting on a level 70 character so we’ve played the game. Most of us have more then the one level 70 we’re posting on. We requesting what we see as a small change that we think will improve the game for all players. That’s all. We don’t think the game sucks or even if our request is implemented and “fails” to improve the game as we think it will that such a small change would make it worse. To have a real conversation that’s where we’d have to start but you’re not interested in a real good faith conversation.

It’s not. I don’t care about you, I don’t care about anyone here. You’re all strangers. we’ll never meet and we’ll never be friends. I’m not here to change your mind or convince you of anything. Since I think you avoid every one of our good arguments I don’t think it’s possible to change your mind. Because you avoid reasonable discussion of our ideas we can’t even have an interesting conversation. We post to request a change from the classic devs, the one’s with the power to make a change. We explain how we think it will improve the game for the devs to consider.

You should be here to explain to the devs why you think it will cause problems. The onus to communicate ideas to the devs is equally on you as us. But that’s not why you’re here. You’re here to win an argument between us posters. You clearly said you think that we’re here to prove to other posters why the change is needed. Others, like fraud, come here just to insult people without ever attempting to make an argument. You’re on a team and you never call out a team member no matter how egregious their behavior or get in the way of their arguments. But you will call out those you see on the other team even for spurious reasons as a debate tactic to avoid discussing their real points. If someone writes a 3 paragraph argument that contains one disparaging sentence you’ll spend the next five posts talking about the one disparaging sentence and ignore the 3 paragraphs of sound arguments. It’s a debate tactic.

Why? There’s no dual specs. There’s no problem with the devs or TBC whatsoever. We good.

The problem is people who want dual specs. They want to remake the game into their image which isnt really fair to the rest of us who signed on for the as advertised recreation. Even worse, they cant give us a good reason why we should give up the rightful TBC for them.

So, no. The onus is entirely on you.

As for why it causes problems well its a sell out move for sell outs no matter how many people it will “help”. All the wrong people if history is any indication.

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The real question is why should I talk to you? You have nothing to offer, nothing to discuss, you say nothing of any value to this discussion or that interests me at all.

That’s been answered already. You shouldn’t. You’re not fit for this discussion and have done a bang up job of displaying that in every conceivable way. Youve been outclassed. Same goes for your cohorts,

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Yes, for you this is just a contest that you want to win. Winning to you means trolling better than your competition. I don’t care about you so winning would mean nothing to me.

You can tell yourself that if it helps but thats not whats happening here. You’ve got a very vested interest in “winning” whatever the hell that means at this point because you’re still lobbying for dual specs in face of all reason and rationality.

There’s no good reason why dual specs should be in TBCC and you and your prayer group cant worship that away no matter what you say - yet here you are.

If you were the poster you say you are you would have accepted the possibility its not coming and dropped it already. You havent because you think you have a legitimate claim and thats so absurd on its face I cant even begin to describe the amount of audacity it takes to state otherwise.

So yeah, stop talking to me. Its the right thing to do.

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I accept the possibility that it’s not coming just as I accept the possibility that it might come. The only way I’d stop posting is if I was sure it was not coming. You’re nobody. Nothing you say matters to me. If blizzard were to post it’s not coming these threads would die.

Any and all evidence on the matter suggests theyre not coming while TBC is still relevant Classic content at the very least, if at all.

Yeah sure, its possible. About as possible as a very passionate garrison loving crowd has a chance of getting WoD garrisons in TBCC. It also relies on Blizz being dumb as hell. So yea ok good luck with your .002% possibility.

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Perhaps you missed the most important part of my post to you.