This is just what happened on the multiboxer threads. Some people would simply relink the same post from the original devs when they lost the argument. They really really believed that the words of the original devs were the same views of the modern devs and because of what was said 15 years ago by devs who don’t work for blizzard anymore it would never change. When multiboxing was changed in the exact way we requested they all disappeared. Not a single one came back to admit their posts from the original devs didn’t affect the decisions of the modern devs. If dual spec is added I think you’ll disappear too.
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I’m honestly just anxiously anticipating the point at which I can say “I told you so”, because we’ve for damn sure earned it.
That’s what the multiboxers told me too. I was never interested in telling them “I told you so” when multiboxing was changed in the exact way we requested. In fact I never “told them so” because I never make predictions about what blizzard might do. I never even posted on the threads discussing what the multiboxing changes banning input broadcasting software meant. When it was changed I was done talking about it. Because all I cared about was changing multiboxing. I never cared at all about the people I was arguing with.
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bro this has nothing to do with multiboxing lol, it never has and never will.
the situations aren’t similar. they aren’t comparable. get over it.
and additionally:
The difference is that Specs are a core gameplay mechanic, whereas MB is an optional mechanic like add-ons.
One is a matter of preference, one is a matter of design philosophy. It’s easier to go back on the original devs’ opinions on MB than it is on Dual Spec.
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That’s what the multiboxers told me too. They lost the arguments and just wanted me to shut up and stop talking about it. It didn’t work then and it won’t work now.
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Even if this was true, which it isn’t.
How does that change the fact you are calling a 3rd party program an in-game feature.
Those two things cannot be both true at the same time by their very definitions of what they are.
It’s amazing when you don’t have an actual way to argue or debate what I have said you fall back onto insults.
Ok…while your experience is similar to what happened when you argued over multiboxing…the content of the discussion was not similar.
It’s possible to be right and wrong depending on context.
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Respecing has always been an optional mechanic. You could do it anytime you wanted for 50 gold each time or when dual spec was added you could also do it anytime you wanted after paying 1k gold. You had the option of not respeccing ever in both systems
According to his logic, add-ons and 3rd party software are part of the base game design. And yet, he refuses to use the addon talented which takes care of everything dual spec would do except the gold cost and being at the class trainer (presaved action bars and talent choices).
His want for dual spec boils down to gold, not QoL, because he has the option of the QoL right now with the talented addon, but refuses to use it.
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I told you I never respec because the cost is too high. To afford it as often as I want would take too much time doing things I think aren’t fun. Why would I need that addon when I never respec.
I’ve told you over and over again that for me it all boils down to gold. For many other people it also boils down to gold. I specced my druid dps because it’s not fun to quest or farm in resto spec. I like to heal dungeons but don’t because the respec cost is too high. Others who might tank or heal make that same subjective analysis and make similar choices. That’s why dual spec would increase the number of tanks and healers
Because I have limited amounts of time and atm I’m spending it arguing with zipzo. You’ve been so thoroughly discredited that you’re posts aren’t important enough to debate. I thought that was clear in previous post.
It’d make being a main spec HEALER a much more experience, not having to struggle and respec after every raid to recoup.
You’re going for word play, I get it, but multi-boxing is in no way affiliated with WoW as being an actual in-game mechanic.
Multi-boxing is more like exploiting a loophole, which understandably as usual with exploits falls in to a gray area that Blizzard has struggled to have a consistent opinion on.
It is, in no uncertain terms, in no way comparable to an actual in-game feature that was explicitly refused as an addition during TBC because it went squarely against the intended game design.
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Another thing about multi-boxing is that it’s something you can literally do no matter what Blizzard feels about it. There’s no “implementation” of it necessary, it’s just whether Blizzard feels like banning over it.
That is in no way comparable to a discussion about intended game design.
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There is no struggle or inconsistent opinion from the original devs on the use of input broadcasting software and hardware. Not only have they been more consistent in their support the original devs addressed it more often then dual spec. It’s not a bug or a loophole. They wrote long posts exactly explaining why it was not automation in their view. They even said they “endorse it.”
The original devs were just as clear that the use of input broadcasting software and hardware was the intended game design. I doubt that you even bothered to read the blue posts on multiboxing I copied onto my posts. That’s because you don’t really care what the original devs said or what they actually intended. You only care if you can find one that agrees with you,
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The cost is to high, when you can easily make 100g in an hour of PLAYING the game.
It boils down to you wanting to put no effort in.
Even during the holiday season I was making 300+ gold a week with about 10 hours of play, which included my raid time, pvp time, exc.
It’s not a time issue, you just want to put no effort in.
Doing the fishing and cooking daily every day yields over 100g a week on average, and they take me about 10 minutes to do on average. You should be able to do them without a huge time investment every day, but you refuse to put any effort into the game and just want things handed to you.
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I’ve already told you I think you’re lying and so do many others. In fact your claim that you said that is a lie. You actually said you could to 2-3 dailies in 10 minutes a day on average, fishing, cooking, and a bombing daily. When you were called out on that lie you switched it up to just 2. See I actually read the posts and I remember. Because I remember I can use the forum search function to find your posts and expose your lies
You throwing insults isn’t discrediting to me, especially when the insults are false. What you have been doing is called slander, and if you want to discredit someone, you need FACTS to do so. Your opinion based on your feelings isn’t a fact.
You call me a lair because you don’t like what I said. Even though what I said can be and has been supported with evidence, Dictionary defined words, math, exc.
I haven’t been discredited, but you have tried to slander me with lies based on your opinion or born of intentional misrepresenting what I have said to meet your agenda.
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Yes. I’ve lost the quote but there’s a post from one of the CMs from just before TBC was originally released, when asked whether re-speccing would be made more accessible in TBC she essentially stated that respeccing is supposed to be inconvenient.
Again, it’s not the same as MB which Blizzard tacitly condoned because it made them more money. You’re taking about changing the design philosophy of the game. Same as if you started overhauling professions or classes or world design.
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