Are you?
Someone stating that nochanges is not Blizzards stance for TBC has just told us what we already know. How the captain obvious stuff remains a stunning revelation says a lot about you.
When someone says it in reference to dual specs the distinct, unmistakable implication is that dual specs are here or at least forthcoming. Thats the argument being made.
WHERE? Logic says this is kind of an important to your argument for you to be correct. Where are dual specs?
Ill take this totally irrelevant non answer as my victory nod. If it was someone else I might have felt good about it but its you, so just another day really.
I can only once again reply with,
wat.
I broke out the hand puppets and everything. This ones on you.
Youâre either hard trolling or have genuine learning disabilities, so Iâm going to leave it there.
I love how you typed that out unironically.
See ya.
Here is the source of your confusion. Same faction BGs are a change that deviate from the original. For some reason you are unable to grasp that concept and you have convinced yourself that it is irrelevant.
But youâre right on one thing. I was powerless to stop HvH bgs.
Will you be powerless to stop DS?
P.S. And⌠I learned to like them in the long run; they ruin immersion a little but hey, I continue/d to play the game anyways.
Im not confused - HvH has got nothing to do or say about dual specs. If you try it just once again assumes some kind of foreknowledge/authority about the existence of dual specs which you cant correctly claim or prove to any reasonable argumentative satisfaction.
I could care less about dual specs going in or not. I dont care enough about this version of TBC, the company running it or the people playing it to get invested like that. Its just kind of like - there. Im more invested in Era where the real game is at.
Like I did with Era Im waiting for Wrath to come out before I allow myself to enjoy TBC because I cant until the majority has moved on.
Dual spec doesnât make more healers or tanks. This is a lie the people dual spec crowd have been trying to use since day one. It will not fix the tank and healer shortage for tbc. Even in the extremely easy wotlk heroics, tanking being much easier, and with dual spec there was a massive tank and healer shortage.
It wonât fix the shortage, stop claiming it will.
The problem with saying dual spec will be added because of HvH, or any other change already made is this.
Each change is made for its own reasons, not because another change was made. Past changes do not and will never justify new changes.
HvH was added for multiple reasons, including but not limited to horde being unable to even play BGs If they had less than 2+ hours to play (and even then only getting 1, maybe 2 games in) and alliance being able to gear up far faster on honor gear even with a strategy of intentionally losing to âwinâ.
What problem does dual spec fix?
Are people unable to play an aspect of the game without dual spec? Nope, they can change specs with very little effort, 50g is extremely easy to get in tbc. Does it fix a content consumption /gearing discrepancy between alliance and horde? No, it doesnât do that either.
The effects of dual spec have 0 connection of why HvH was added. It addresses no issues, fixes nothing, and unlike HvH which was in a gray area of if it went against the intended design goals of origional tbc, we know dual spec goes DIRECTLY against the intended design goals of tbc.
Except it does, more people having a readily available option to tank/heal increases the amount of people who will do so. Noone is claiming that dps wait times become instant, but claiming that more people wouldnât tank/heal is incredibly naive, and also completely ignoring all the people telling you they would in fact do so.
Jesus wept. Well itâs a good thing no one is saying that, isnât it? you guys donât seem to be able to wrap your heads around basic english.
No one in the pro-dual spec has claimed it âWILL BE ADDEDâ.
You guys, on the other hand, have definitively stated that it wonât be.
HvH is clear evidence against the statement âthey wonât add itâ.
See? See how easy it is to quote someone saying something? Now show me where any of us have ever said it will be added.
Which is also not what is being said.
Same Faction BGâs are merely one of many examples that prove blizzard doesnât care about #nochanges in regards to TBC Classic. So itâs very relevant to bring them up whenever someone tries to use #nochanges as a reason why dual spec wouldnât be dded.
Now that I have a geared priest I can definitively say, I would use my 2nd dual spec to spec pve heals and would heal daily heroics and other pve content. Which I wonât do otherwise.
If youâre going call me a liar you can go to hell. Simple as that.
Hereâs my priest. Itâs geared enough to do the content, full season 1/2 gear with a mixture of kara/gruul epics and lights justice thrown in. Content which I will do when dual spec gets added, because I enjoy it, just not enough to pay 50g for the privilege every time Iâm in pve/shadow spec.
This is another of the lies you constantly make. We are not saying dual spec will âfixâ the tank and healer shortage. Only make it less severe and make it easier to find tanks and healers. Hereâs a post from three months ago where we had this same discussion.
You donât even need to engage with this terrible argument. We all know dual spec wonât fix the shortage outright. It will however alleviate it, that is, make it less bad, which will be an improvement for all players, and thatâs not up for debate. The fact that even one more healer or tank will enter the pool is proof, and I am literally that proof on my own.
Their only rebuttal is that Iâm lying, which deserves a metaphorical punch in the face, because itâs rude af.
Lol what?
Was it ever remotely a possibility to abandon lore and have same factions battle each other outside of arena, already in BC?
And btw we were into Cataclysm before we saw rated BGs allow FvF.
Fun 2015 tidbit I just found:
Our goal with Mercenary Mode is to allow players who want to participate in Ashran or unrated Battlegrounds the ability to do so without having to wait through long queues, while still maintaining the spirit of the core Alliance vs Horde fantasy.
âA grey areaâ aka it benefitted me so Iâm going to shift the goalposts over here. #onlymychanges
The reality is that nothing can fix the tank shortage. Some folks like myself have repeatedly pointed out that in wrath, with dual spec, death knights, huge tank buffs (especially to protection warrior), AND bonus rewards for queuing dungeons as a tank⌠there was still a massive tank shortage. I look forward to queuing as a tank myself and getting instant pops but I doubt I will dent the inevitable massive imbalance.
That said, dual spec would still help heroics and arenas as most people do not want to pay a ransom to keep switching to the optimum build. Another thing that could help is nerfing the ridiculously hard heroics and/or adjusting rewards to actually be worth the trouble.
âThis is painful to watch.â
-Reality is often painful, but I say it how it is.