Dual Spec.. please?

The answer was specifically given to a tanking thread, but that doesn’t mean it was the only goal. Nor does it mean it was overly successful. After all about a dozen more changes were made through retails life cycle to address this same issue.

People had the option to make a tank off spec with dual spec. Yet it was still a problem of tank shortages. Why? Because people used dual spec for farming specs, or pvp specs, or even a raid spec and a dungeon dps spec, exc. Instead of a tank spec.

But hay, there’s proof dual spec didn’t fix the issue. It’s called history and patch notes.

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You do realize the context of the post further defeats your false claim, right? The post is talking about the scaling of group composition in regards to 25 man raiding. Ghostcrawler responds and basically says that dual-spec is there in part to help address the issue of 5 man groups each requiring a tank but scaling up to 25 doesn’t require 5 tanks, leading to a tank shortage in 5 mans.

Read it without confirmation bias and you’ll see that you’re wrong.

Use an emoji next time. It’ll be funnier and make you seem less pretentious.

doesnt mean much coming from you

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I know you are, but what am I?

If dual spec is added there would need to be an equal gold sink to replace it.
As much as I would love to switch specs on the fly, that is just not the spirit of this version of the game and is a slippery slope.

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No. “God sinks” do not matter anymore because of bots and people buy gold all the time.

This is “problem” existed in Vanilla, but since everyone cheats and buys gold and Blizzard doesn’t care anymore, the concept of “gold sink” is just antiquated.

Sorry, but y’all had your chance to nip this in the bud in Classic, but you caved when the prospect of getting your epic mount seemed to good.

We all all know you caved. We all know you’re crooked. We all know you continued to buy gold because Blizzard didn’t do anything about it.

So, “gold sinks” are irrelevant. They are a red herring. They do not matter in 2021.

“everyone buys gold”
Projection? I’ve never bought gold.

You clearly do not understand how gold sinks work if you think gold buyers and sellers are even tangentially related to gold sinks.

Ok, everyone except the guy who told everyone he didn’t buy gold.

That guy is as pure as the driven snow.

Because, as we know, nobody lies.

Dual spec is a gold sink.

I don’t respec but I would buy Dual spec for 1,000g. There are many other people in the same boat.

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Many players respec twice a week. Some respec twice a day at least, and some never respec.

From what i have seen the average would be around 2 respecs per week. If we take the average of everyone, Meaning in 10 weeks you would have spent that 1k gold without dual spec.

Now let’s go 1 step further and assume the average is once a week. So that’s 20 weeks and you hit that 1k gold mark.

So with dual spec you spend less gold in the game after 5-6 months, that not even half of the estimated life span if the game. (About 2 years like classic???) In the long run dual spec will remove far less gold in tbcc than not having it in unless it had an outrageous price like 10k gold.

But then that runs into another problem. Having the price be that high will directly encourage people to buy gold. This makes more bots and hurts the game even more.

There is no way to add dual specs that let’s it still properly function as a net gain as a gold sink and not be a huge incentive for gold buying.

And no, not everyone buys gold. I afforded raiding naxx by selling dmt buffs (had to sit out some weeks due to lack of gold for consumes but I was in there most weeks) I went into tbcc with about 400g because naxx was a huge gold sink. I actually had a system down with some warlock friends and had a raid that would summon to dmt, you get buffs, then summon to zg Island, me, the dmt summoner, and the zg summoner all made decent gold off it and it’s how we afforded naxx. Through the lifespan of classic I would say I made about 25k gold from selling tributes. And naxx ate about 20k of that lol.

Gold sinks are still very important, just because you buy gold because “everyone is doing it” doesn’t mean everyone does. I spent my days off of work selling dmt buffs in classic to make my gold, and naxx ate all of it. You might have bought gold, but not everyone has.

Which, again, has become irrelevant in Classic WoW and TBC. It just gives gold-buyers another incentive to buy gold from third parties just to sustain the “meta.”

You spent 20k in Naxx and didn’t even clear it?

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Excellent track record. Should totally run for Congress.

You know Blzz stated that they wanted to recreate the original game as it was in 2004. Except they didn’t. Back then only Alliance had Pallies, and only Horde had shaman.

And that’s just one example. So why not add other QOL features. Like dual specs, quest markers, FP’s, being able to queue BG from anywhere, and for the love of god, a LFG tool. I am SO tired of seeing LFG channel flooded.

Because #NoChanges

Until they make changes. Like Seal of Blood for Alliance. Then the #NoChanges folks acquiesce and roll over for some reason.

Until other people suggest more later on. Then the #NoChanges folks try to to stand on principle even though the rolled over already.

And that’s where the fun begins!

I did clear naxx… is all you know is how to insult?

So, you train people to tank… How’s that bad? Instead of flaming people, work with them instead. It takes one run to learn the pulls.

I have to speculate based on the fact you said you posted on your Hunter main in this thread and the only Horde Hunter I’ve seen post in here didn’t clear Naxx.