That’s the exact opposite of what I said. I and others have repeatedly acknowledged Blizz could do literally anything they want, including adding dual specs to TBC. I dont think its likely but I do concede it could happen. They do stupid things all the time like clones and boosts in Classic. Wiping the hordes tushy for them with HvH here in TBC.
Id simply like it to be clear that would be in spite of necessity and good intention and not because of it. Many pro dual spec folk concede that dual specs arent actually needed. I just want that preserved somewhere because I can already imagine a future where dual specs come in and the people who agreed they weren’t necessary even though they argued it that way will (and denied it lol) then attempt to say I was clearly wrong and they were right because they actually were necessary, just like they said it was. The proof is Blizzard being dumb again, duh.
Dual specs would be a loss for TBC, not a win.
Edit: And just to throw it out there, yeah I do post with some hubris from time to time. Its because I told everyone in Wrath that the game would be down to mid single digit subs inside of 5 years if they didnt reverse course and got trolled by posters far better than the trolls this forum produces nowadays.
Ive made or been close on many of predictions of how things would play out because I had seen it over and over - companies catering to the lowest common denominator because the money is just as good and in more abundance.
I’m not sure that “terrifies” is the right word, a bit overdramatic.
You also have no evidence the degree of probability for blizzard adding dual spec. You don’t know if it’s possible, likely, or unlikely, or else.
At least we have some notion as to how the original TBC devs felt…and we’ve seen them refer to original TBC devs for some of the changes :)…so naturally one might assume they might consult the vision of the devs for other changes.
shrug
Who knows?
However, in all honestly, I think the evidence points more to that it won’t be added.
I hope that you’ll find fun with the game even without dual spec.
Its not my fault pro dual spec got no leg to stand on. If you had a clue you would understand that.
Their failures are not my problem and not my burden to carry. They can do their own lifting but they dont really seem up to the task really and thats no reflection on me.
Im simply stating the obvious over and over - tbcc doesnt need dual specs. They agree. They still think its necessary beyond a doubt and it cant be argued. If you disagree its because you have some kind of problem. /shrug indeed
If you’re so into stating the obvious you would state that adding dual spec was the most popular change in the history of wow and is supported by a majority now. But you’re not into stating the obvious. You’re into fighting with us on this thread with what ever argument you can come up with in the moment. No matter how benighted or fallacious.
Dual specs popularity doesn’t have jack to say about its necessity or its outcomes (assuming it exists). One aint got a dog damn thing to do with the other. Consensus never proved a single thing, ever.
The bigger issue is how many people are quitting due to lack of dual spec, either directly or indirectly. That is what will determine its necessity in blizzard’s eyes, the all mighty sub count.
This is another example of how you will change your argument anytime it suits you. Dual spec wasn’t removed, the gold cost was lowered then removed and it was expanded to be tri or even quad spec. This was a bad argument when those in favor of dual spec made it and it’s a bad argument now. It just shows how duplicitous you are.
Dual spec not existing past cata is being used because a PRO dual spec person was insistent that retail doesn’t have dual spec because they were arguing the literal sense of the words for dual spec.
We have accepted your proposed dual spec argument that dual spec doesn’t exist in retail, it was removed after existing for not even 2 full expansions.
Counting from when it was added to shadowlands it was in the game for less than 30% of the time after being in game for 2 out of 7 expansions that have happened since the time it was added.
I have not seen a single person against dual spec accept the proposal that one or two people made that it doesn’t exist in retail. That’s just another lie you’re telling. It fit’s your argument in the moment to tell that lie and since you lack any semblance of integrity you’ll use it.
Several have argued (including Ziryus) that dual spec does not exist in retail, and therefore retail is not a good “comparison” for how dual spec will not fix the tank shortage (your main argument for why it’s a good idea).
