Dual Spec.. please?

I said I wouldn’t reply but this is rediculous.

Are you suggesting that commitment to some change is equivalent to commitment to all possible change?

You seem to imply that I can’t be for some changes if I oppose one change? Which is ridiculous.

I mean it is utterly nonsensical to make the argument that because I don’t like your suggestion I have to then be opposed to all suggestions.

I have been over it many many times, there is no inherent contradiction in being for some changes and not for other changes.

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No the contradiction is using #nochanges against certain changes while also being okay with others.

I never ever used that argument and the fact that you constantly lie about what I’ve said - is you being dishonest and not me being contradictory.

You literally are inventing words I never said and claiming I said them over and over. Your post is nothing but propaganda.

It’s hard to argue with people that are literally making up what you claim. I don’t hold the position you and Kumasama claim that I hold. I never have.

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#ZiryusWantsAllChanges

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You realise they’ve backed themselves in a corner. If they ever don’t like a change they’re now contradicting themselves and supporting #nochanges by their own standard.

I wonder if they support my proposition that we should change respecing so that each respec should cost 1000g?

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Okay name a list of changes I want.

Do you support my proposition that we should change respecing so that each respec should cost 1000g?

Nope, thanks for disproving her point :slight_smile:

Then you’re contradicting yourself and you’re for #nochanges!

By the way the argument I am using here is utter incoherent gaslighting rubbish, and it is exactly the position you have held against me for months now.

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Yeah, he might as well be telling me we live in a society or something.

Not sure what that as to do with Dual Spec, but, like I said…

Not really as I don’t use it’s a change for changes I’m in favor of :slight_smile:

Unlike the #nochange crowd that can’t defend their position beyond #nochanges

That’s not the implication, everything else that follows is therefore unsupported.

There is no #nochanges crowd, you’re making it up. It’s not a position I hold and most of the others disagreeing with you here don’t hold it either.

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That’s pretty contradictory to your #ZiryusWantsAllChanges Stance.

Why do you only selectively use it?

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You’re right there is no #nochanges crowd, there’s just a bunch of hypocrites who selectively use #nochanges.

He is directly claiming I support no change on the basis that I have claimed that I don’t support one specific change. He is wrongly conflating my contention that design intention is an important factor with proposing anything that differs from the original implementation.

It’s a dumb argument and you know it - whether you admit it or not.

(edited - I used the wrong wording here originally - accidently wrote “opposing” instead of “proposing” - which means the opposite of what I intended)

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Thank you so much.

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Actually I’m not claiming you support no changes, I’m claiming you hypocritically use #nochanges against a change you don’t like but can’t actually argue against. You don’t want to be accused of that stop using that’s the way it was an an argument.

That is a very not subtle difference.

You are claiming I’m a hypocrite for doing something I didn’t actually do. I never used #nochanges as an argument against dual spec.

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You routinely fall back on that was the way it was so that’s the way it should be as an argument.