Dual Spec.. please?

No I don’t, all you have to do is explain how the mechanics of dual spec would interact poorly with TBC.

I did the same for my reason, dual spec facilitates switching between different play styles, TBC has multiple areas of the game and all classes have different specs that are better for those various forms of content. This isn’t rocket science.

Because they thought they had reasonable grounds to do so. Btw that’s all I am requiring from you, not proof but reasonable logical grounds.

I actually changed my view on arena spec based on that standard. See, unlike you I’m not out to win. I just want good arguments.

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Irrelevant. HvH BGs was still a hypothetical. There was no way to know the kind of impact it would have on the game.

But they still added it to the game.

Because the majority of the TBC Classic community wants it.

Other than it being directly against the game design intent that tbcc is attempting to replicate?

I didn’t ask for a #nochanges argument, I asked for an actual in game problem.

But that runs contrary to what you said before:

Blizzard didn’t prove the hypthetical impact of same-faction battlegrounds in TBC Classic because there were no concrete example of it existing prior to it existing.

So, here, yet again, Riger contradicts himself.

“Want”

Is the lack of dual spec preventing people from playing content? Is it causing a gear discrepancy between factions? It has to be a reason that isn’t just a want.

Oh, forgive me. I meant understandable reasons in terms of YOUR gameplay. How it negatively affects YOUR gameplay.

To make the difference more obvious, think about a restaurant. A lot of people ask the owner to add another dish to the menu, but you are against it, because you don’t like the dish. But here comes the joke: you don’t have to order or eat the dish, and just because it’s on the menu is not a reason against it, when so many people are in favor of it.

If it would make your food taste worse, I could kinda understand your reason at least a bit, but it doesn’t. It changes practically nothing for you.

So it’s not really a reason, because it doesn’t negatively affect the general gaming experience of 99.999% of the players. Not even yours, if those are your reasons!

What you miss is that I am describing the standard of proof you require from me. I’m not requiring that standard from you.

I am suggesting that it is unfair of you to apply a higher standard of proof to me than you can deliver yourself though.

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Except it’s been thoroughly explained how the mechanics of dual spec would greatly help a lot of people in TBC.

All you have to do is explain how the mechanics of dual spec would not be good for TBC, that’s exact same standard of proof. You just can’t or won’t meet it.

Correct.

Was lack of same-faction battlegrounds preventing people from playing content?

What do class specs even have to do with gear discrepancy between factions?

No, it doesn’t. This game isn’t food or water. People play this game because they want to. It therefore follows they ask for stuff in the game because they want it.

Asserted, not explained.

No explained, the mechanics of dual spec are not a mystery nor is the content of TBC.

You just don’t seem to understand the explanation because it’s not in line with your personal play style.

Back to vague sophistry again.

Wake me up when you start using words we can all understand.

Fair enough It’s like anything though to be fair I’ve been called Justice many names and had just as many things and ridiculed me because I’m in favor of dual speck so it is A2A street to be fair.

That and when I get very long Replies most people just say I’m not bringing that wall of tax so again

Most people looking for change will go to the forums to be heard. Most people who dont or dont care wont.

21k Votes with a 400k player base. Id hardly say thats the “Majority”

More like “The majority of people who are looking for dual spec to be implemented want dual spec”

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Again wanting to respect the actual design intent and goals of tbc, is not no changes…

Technically not true Is hes requesting a change to the game which under the guise of some changes.

It certainly This could fall in that category Is especially since there is an outcry for it there’s a lot of people that want how many people want double respect and don’t want it if I’m being my giving my best guess I would say it’s 5050.

I mean hack if you really want to stretch it His wrath talents could technically fall under that.

Now I’m not saying That would necessarily be good for the game But technically you could fall under it.

However the point stands Is in our perspective we see all the good it could do And the problems that it could help with. And the problems that I could help with

Is and you’re perspective if the it’s the exact opposite Again and have said the several times any point we make for it.

You could just as easily twist and say no that’s bad .

Just like so many people say all of our arguments come down to I want I want I want.

We could just as easily Is all your arguments come down to you don’t you don’t you don’t

Yes it was.

Unlike pve content where you can plan ahead to log in and go directly into the dungeon or raid, BG queue times could not be avoided by pre-planning a group. And with queue times of 1+ hours for horde, players who couldn’t invest multiple hours a day could not play in BGs.

Class specs… this is comparing why same faction BGs were added, the queue times were causing a gear discrepancy between factions.