Dual spec at phase 2

I personally dislike dual spec because it creates the expectation that I should play a spec I don’t enjoy because it is optimal for other peoples game play. (I am looking at you warriors, I don’t have to heal if I don’t want to)

But alas I also see the benefits for people who do wish to heal/tank but would rather not AFK in a capital city waiting for groups because they aren’t fun to do open world content as.

I played Druid from 2019 until WotLK and I quite liked the classic 50 gold respec because it felt like an important and heavy decision, like quitting the job that you have been working in for 10 years and starting something completely different. Overall I don’t mind if they add it, but I probably wouldn’t use it.

The cost has absolutely nothing to do with the grief it costs REMAPPING your bars EVERY three days. Most classes don’t even have half their buttons. All the losers that cried about changes are the reason we didn’t have dual spec from the jump four years ago. Dual spec is only positive, there is no detriment to any part of the game by adding it. Put it behind a sick quest chain, make it cost a reagent to activate, make it only usable in instances and capital cities. Whatever it takes, I don’t care. Stop making me completely flip flop my UI constantly

list any reason. what could dual spec possibly take away from the game for you?

Dual spec is just a matter of convenience for healers and tanks, really. No one wants to quest in the open world as a Holy Priest or Resto Shaman. It’s just awful, but guilds / raids still need healers, right? So why should the players be forced to visit a trainer and spend their hard-earned gold constantly? You’re basically imposing punishment on people who choose to play support roles.

Same for PvP. Even if you’re a pure DPS, you often need different talents for battlegrounds and raids. What’s the upside of making people visit a trainer and spend gold when it’s time to PvP or raid?

Not having dual spec is just a bad system IMO. If they’re not going to allow dual spec they should just let us change talents any time we’re in a rested area for free.

Dual spec is just a matter of convenience for healers and tanks, really. No one wants to quest in the open world as a Holy Priest or Resto Shaman.

You’re trying to import retail/wotlk role design.

Healers and Tanks should be able to kill things in classic. And that was usually the case, holy paladins and restro druids can burst the heck out of you, and solo level just fine.

But in retail wow, trying to solo level as a healer is torture. Because more of their power is indexed into healing, and other defenses, and less is indexed into power.

Same for PvP. Even if you’re a pure DPS, you often need different talents for battlegrounds and raids.

I really hate this mentality of thinking you need every key to enter every type of door. Back in old school MMO’s if your team comp couldn’t beat a boss than tough luck, come back another time.

Not having dual spec is just a bad system IMO. If they’re not going to allow dual spec they should just let us change talents any time we’re in a rested area for free.

No. They should make the cost of duel specing scale much higher than it currently does. To discourage this end-game-wotlk-andy mid maxing bullcrap.

Have you played classic? No one’s going to make you respec if you don’t want to. None of the content is hard enough to require it. But even to that point if a fight only requires one tank why would you not want to respec damage to make it go faster?

But even to that point if a fight only requires one tank why would you not want to respec damage to make it go faster?

make it go faster? …it’s the game. WTF are you speeding towards exactly?

No one’s going to make you respec if you don’t want to.

Anybody being able to easily swap classes ruins it for everybody. Go play runescape if you don’t appreciate class based rpgs.

Speeding towards playing the game the way I would like to.

Y’all keep saying this. Name a way it ruins it. Name one way how pressing a button and having all of my keybinds go where there supposed to be ruins it for literally anyone. What is the difference between dual spec and me going to a trainer and doing it. Do you even play the game? As a warlock I have to go all the way back to ironforge or stormwind to change specs to pvp. And toss off with any “mmmrrreeebhh just stay the same spec” nonsense. Not having instant cast corruption makes pvp unplayable. You do not use corruption in pve. But still, please name a single REASON why it ruins anything.

Season of Discovery is all about experimentation. New runes and builds that go against the typical flow. Dual Spec opens up more room for experimenting or trying new roles without having to return to a city, pay a tax, every time you switch between say tanking or healing or DPS.

Y’all keep saying this. Name a way it ruins it.

RPGs are meant to have MEANINGFUL choices. Duel spec defeats the entire purpose of the game. It’s an mmoRPG ffs.

What is the difference between dual spec and me going to a trainer and doing it.

They clearly need to make it more expensive.

Bro the only reason you can change your talents is if you make a mistake, or if you REALLY want to change. Not to do this mid max bullcrap.

Not having instant cast corruption makes pvp unplayable.

You’re insane. And bad at specing. WTF are you doing? Swapping between improved corruption and suppression?

You don’t understand the point of talent trees at all. They are to make your character stand out, different from other warlocks. It’s not meant to be something you constantly swap between based on whether you’re doing pvp, or single target pve, or aoe pve, or solo leveling.

They should really increase the cost of respecing so people stop doing this.

Ok now you’re just lying. The gold cost and requirement to go to a city is actually perfectly fine if you are wanting to try a totally new build.

But that’s not what people are wanting to do. They are wanting to have instant cast corruption for pvp, and swap it with 10% chance to avoid resistance in PVE fights.

Duel spec is NOT for people who enjoy rpg, or theorycrafting, or the aesthetic of a spec. They only care about mid maxing.

So you speak for everyone? Crazy stuff.

Yeah dual spec would be dope.

yeah, I agree with that for TABLETOP rpgs. This is a video game, and I want my controls to work for what I’m doing.

The cost is nothing. In classic I was respeccing for 100g twice a lockout. It’s just annoying having to remap buttons.

YOU are insane. The pve spec is destruction. There is no identity in specializations in WoW. The game has had clear cookie cutter builds since 2004. You’re playing a game with your own messed up rule sets

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Wait, dual spec doesn’t require more space in the bags for more gear?

I don’t think that’s viable in vanilla…

God, titan forging, how much I miss you!

Holy crap. You pick your ENTIRE spec based on what performs best?

Bro, you’re supposed to just pick whichever one you think is coolest…

people like you don’t belong in mmorpgs. What’s next. Are you going to complain that you can’t switch between classes with a click of a button? You know, incase you want to play one class for PVE and a different for PVP.

I mean…it’s optional, what’s the harm, right? By your logic the game should have multiclassing too.

How about you just continue being a role player. I will pretend to be your trainer and you can come give me 50g and ill let you respec. Sound good?

Please add duel spec as a feria Druid I have to swap between pvp dps and tank I know it only get two but in phase 2 pvp and dos will merge more

Dumb take.

plz give us dual.

Yea, without dual spec… later phases are going to be absolute trash, too much variety and no real flexibility…