DS 2/20 launch!

Yes, they certainly can. There are always runs forming.

The way people have run raids up to this point is not irrelevant because it provides crucial context and insights into player behavior and preferences. Understanding how raids were managed before LFR was introduced helps us recognize the evolving needs and habits of the player community. By examining historical raid participation, we can better assess the impact and potential benefits of implementing LFR. Ignoring past experiences and behaviors would overlook important trends and data that inform current and future decisions regarding raid content and accessibility.

You repeating the same tired things just shows how much you donā€™t understand why LFR was put in.

Yeah man the people who need LFR are really going to make it through a raid leader checking their logs and gear.

I canā€™t wait for your next hot take Iā€™m sure itā€™s going to be brilliant.

Youā€™re insufferable

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Most classic players cannot fully complete the normal modes, once again you are being dense.

There wasnā€™t a need for it till Cata raids, everything before this was MC level difficulty. The hardest mechanic before cata was ā€œdonā€™t drop defile on top of the meleeā€

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Whatā€™s hilarious is he was literally a normal mode raider.

He couldnā€™t full clear 13/13H in tier 11 and he was hard stuck 2/7H in Firelands before he joined the carry group he pays for.

He literally did more normal modes than heroic.

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Repetition of key points does not indicate a lack of understanding but rather an emphasis on their importance.

Thats on them normal is easy.

I get it youā€™re just surprised people could actually be worse at the games than you are.

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Heroic is easy, that term means nothing. Its hard for the average player which is who keeps the servers going with subs

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Normal is actually not that easy, my super casual and latino core -which is a big debuff sometimes :rofl:- (1 day a week, 3 hours raid) is 6/7h now but i have to say that some bosses are quite difficult in normal compared to T11 (it came up with a big nerf to start with). Shannox, alysrazor and ragnaros for example.

Shannox and Alysrazor are easy fights.

Everything is easy when youā€™re paying people to carry you.

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Yeah? Well, you know, thatā€™s just like uh, your opinion, man.

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Did you really compare Ragnaros to Shannox and Alysrazor though?

Ragnaros is harder than both fights of course but these bosses are not a piƱata. i went to a random 25man pug with my alter last week and we couldnā€™t kill shannox in normal. You could do all bosses in T11 (normal) with 8 people in 10man and 18 in 25man. It was THAT easy. FL normal feelsā€¦ Normal.

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Alysrazor is kind of like a piƱata tho. It does fall down from the sky and drop loot.

Everythingā€™s a pinata when you can just lay there dead every fight

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All bosses are piƱataā€™s because they fall and drop loot.

Especially when you donā€™t contribute to them ā€œfallingā€.

You ā€œfallā€ first, if only you dropped loot, you only drop gold tho.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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It makes no sense to have HoT and H+ dungeons when HoT already drop 378 gear. HoT dropping 378 and LFR dropping 384 does make sense because LFR can only be queued once a week. No one wants to spam H+ a million times for marginally better gear when theyā€™ve already been doing those dungeons all expansion. At least HoT and DS are new scenery, which weā€™ll be doing for months anyway.

LFR is not being released.

Now because LFR is not being released Blizzard is adding LFR gear in ā€œAlternative avenuesā€

Players will now have H+ dungeons along with the associated vendor. (Heroic Firelands gear)
They will also have HoT Dungeon loot
While also being able to obtain LFR gear in whatever form Blizzard adds (most likely tied to H+ dungeons or HoT dungeons).

This is literally all I want to do.