Drake fang talisman loot priority

Yeah I dont see problem with it, IMO you don’t NEED to give it to a main tank unless yours is a bear as warriors function fine without it.

IMO dft should go to both good rogues and good ferals and is an item that should be rewarded to someone who works the hardest on their class to increase their dps instead of an ‘eh you have 60% slice and dice uptime but you haven’t gotten anything in a while, here you go pal.’ item.

Also Bear MT before anyone else for dft as it will make a legitmate huge impact on their TPS and mitigation. Not too many guilds have MT bears now as fury prot on pure farm content is able to push TPS better.

ITT: a lot of people who don’t seem to understand that hit is massively important to bears in raiding.

You can’t say we’re below melee DPS in prio for DFT until you play a feral tank and experience missing your first maul (or two even).

How long do you want your feral tank in hit blues?

Give the feral the one DFT he needs that he will wear for the literal rest of the game and move on with your lives.

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Yeah all these phys dps spoiled by getting bugs (hstrike queuing) and free weapon skill/hit for existing don’t realise how hard hit is to get for druids.

If you’re an MT or 2nd choice for tanking in your guild, you should be getting it. AD is threat gen, hit is necessary and the dodge chance is itemized perfectly for druid tank. If your guild is giving it to DPS over a tank then you should probably have a talk to the GM or RL.

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They don’t need it unless hes the guild main tank though. For offtanks, its gonna sit there mostly wasted.

And the OP mentions that feral is below the MT, so, clearly his guild is NOT using him as MT. Its probably a fury prot war like most guilds. In that situation, a DFT is pretty wasted on a druid.

Not that I care mind you. If I was designing the loot system I wouldnt even try to min-max at all. Content is too east to bother with that.

I just got my DFT a couple weeks ago :slight_smile:

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Sometimes a tank has to be absent, or just plain dies, and we have to fill in as a snap threat tank. Sometimes we tank other things like ZG or AQ20 when your main tank isn’t going (most of them).

We do plenty of other things that DFT presents a massive QOL increase to, both in terms of the hit and the AP (and the dodge, while not significant, doesn’t hurt).

Like I said, if you wanna keep your bears in blues forever, then sure don’t ‘waste’ it on them.

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As a feral OT that doesn’t tank any boss fights they should be on same prio as rogues and feral dps.

Still an upgrade for the OT to be able to keep threat if the fury prot dies from lack of shield or using cooldowns. Also it makes miles more a difference on a bear than a warrior.

Just don’t bring a feral OT and you don’t need to have this conversation. A geared fury warrior is a better OT in any scenario I can think of. Fully support that guilds decision on DFT.

Its a bigger DPS increase for the raid if a cat gets it over a rogue or most fury warriors.

Rogues and Warriors have weapon skill given by Race, Talents and Items, Druids and if a cats in ‘speed running guilds’ would easily contribute more with dft than if it was given to a rogue in full T2 (now he will miss 2% less on his offhand attacks kek) or Warriors who have unmissable offhand attacks and weapon skill from either race or item.

In terms of pure mitigation and threat gen, a feral druid wins against fury prot every single time. I’m full dps cat (without the bear threat talent) and i can pull threat off the fury prot MT if i wanted to, easily.

You rolled a gnome warrior though, so your opinion on this is a little…wrong.

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’ Just bring a geared Fury Prot?’

As a cat who likes to tank sometimes, using an MCP I’ve overtaken a dagger fury warrior tanking from an 8k deficit and am only out TPS’ed by the Fury Prot tanking popping cooldowns (less mit high potential for death on non farm content).

Bears are fine and strong but if you don’t give a class any items of course they’re not going to perform well.

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Sounds like you’ve only played with garbage bear tanks. My guild’s feral tank MTs many boss fights and rocks it. Our warriors and rogues pink parse in BWL and he still has no issues holding threat.

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Ofc I rolled gnome. I’m on a pvp server. But if we’re going down that route - nice wcl buds… are we looking at a sub 1hr BWL just yet or where are we on the journey?

And no, feral tanks being a meme spec isn’t just my opinion. It’s a known fact as shown by pretty much any front page guild running a total zero of those. I don’t know what to tell you - I just don’t think you deserve a DFT for picking a class that has a significantly lower ceiling than other classes in your role.

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My guild has a 39 min MC and under hour BWL. Not sure what you’re stabbing at there.

Rolling gnome warrior is only slightly better than rolling NE warrior. Doesn’t matter what server you’re on, its the wrong choice.

#13 has one. Higher than rise.

You’re right, there are actually some but it’s very very few. And I would be very surprised if their opinions on DFT differ from that of OPs guild.

Its a reasonable position.

Roxi obviously has no idea what he’s talking about. Probably lost a roll on something to a druid and is salty about it. Maybe shouldn’t have hopped on the bandwagon and rolled warrior like literally everyone else.

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MT>rogue>Fury/cat>OT

I’ll admit I’m biased :stuck_out_tongue: