No, it wasn’t. That lie has been thoroughly debunked by historians and political experts for decades. They actually k*lled socialists after they got them on board.
Not to mention that Harris is not even CLOSE to being socialist.
He is a fascist and was convicted. Idk what side of google you’re on, but official courts convicted him. He was just given immunity afterwards due to a vague conservative law that was made specifically for that case.
Again, I really see no issue in allowing 10 player raiders to get the weapon at the same rate per player as the 25 player raiders. Why gatekeep fun on a 16 or so year old game (referring to Cataclysm itself)? There is no point in it. Also, we’re supposed to be doing accelerated phases anyways, so why does it matter?
I really don’t agree with you for what i just said. Unless you’re a crazy hardcore player i don’t think you’d break up a successful 25 man for faster staffs. People are going to get 2 items a boss kill and be absolutely regretful of their decision. It’s the reason you don’t do it now. quite literally
Here’s my biggest argument. maybe it helps.
Firelands is significantly better than dragon soul. it’s not like we’re all buying our time till something cool comes out. The next raid i have nostalgia for, but it’s kind of bad compared to FL.
We should use this as the peak of Cata. This is where everyone had the most fun - the best prog - the thing you remember about cata classic.
I really don’t see why gatekeeping staffs from anyone is a good thing. you know dragon soul is cooked and half the player base will leave because of it, and that most guilds will clear it wayyyyyyyy faster than FL. We should come to celebrate the best Tier we’ll ever get in cata and ball. I think everyone deserves a staff if they raid weekly. Not just 10 mans. Like the whole 25 man needs to be handsomely rewarded with them… Equality doesn’t mean just make 10 man better. It also means make 25 man even faster.
Blizzard is going to ruin their chances to make T13 great so we might as well end on a bang. Let’s do t12 like an absolute chad
I’m personally just making a rebuttal to his ignorance and insults, as he brought up Harris when referring to “making things equal”. It’s dumb imo, which is why I keep trying to redirect to my view on the actual topic of this thread (being the staff) and how I don’t see an issue with allowing 10 player raiders get the staff at the same rate.
I can’t actually tell who brought it up first cuz I’ve blocked all the trolls lol. I have to piece the thread together from replies from everyone else.
Has that been the case since before cata prepatch with the “Wrath era” spam posts? Would definitely like an explanation from Blizz on how they’ve gotten away with spamming and necro’ing for months lmao
The issue boils down to simple common sense and pure logic, as has been explained numerous times in this thread alone.
A 25-man raid has 2.5 times more players than a 10-man group.
A 25-man raid typically has three times the average number of casters compared to a 10-man raid.
Based solely on those premises, a 10-man group should not be considered on equal footing to complete the staff as a 25-man group.
This isn’t regarded as gatekeeping the staff, unlike previous legendaries that were limited to 25-man content (such as Warglaives, Thoridal, Val’anyr, Shadowmourne). In this expansion, the staff and daggers aren’t restricted to 25-man content; they require a bit more time to acquire, which isn’t the same as gatekeeping.
The people that say that know it isn’t. 25m raids are preferred by GDKPs specifically because they are noticeably easier, especially when you have to carry people.
So, you read that and see “guilds”, I read that and see “guildies”.
Want to share the difference in those two words with me?? Or do you not see a difference?
Hint: There is a difference…
Willing to let it go if English isn’t your first language btw…
Well, I see both as, a ‘guildie’ is a member of a guild. Thus, common sense and basic logic go hand in hand, once again proving their interconnectedness.
Again, he never said full roster, and I’m not sure how you can get confused on it. I didn’t ask if they’re interconnected, I asked if they are the same thing.
If he had said “most real 25 man guilds being t11 bis in 3 weeks of launch of raids” I’d see your point, but he didn’t. So can we stop now, or you gonna go on a tirade about ferals again or something?
This discussion centers on the staff, not on the drastic need for feral druids to get a buff or the distribution of loot.
Essentially, Blizzard made the decision of making the staff obtainable through 10-man content. They further maintained fairness by ensuring the completion rate for the staff did not match that of those who engaged in 25-man content. This approach keeps the game balanced and equitable without undermining the value of the 25-man raid team.
It’s fortunate that Blizzard didn’t restrict access to legendary items as they did in Vanilla, TBC, and Wrath, where they were locked behind 40-man and 25-man raid content.
Instead, you create a self-entitled post, disregarding common sense and basic logic, because you feel like you’re being treated unfairly, which is not the case.
The assertion is incorrect. Common sense and basic logic suffice to comprehend that 10-person raiding cannot be as rewarding as 25-person raiding, simply to maintain fairness and equality.
How is rewarding 10 people the same as 25 people logical? By that reasoning, a 10-man raid should drop 5 pieces of loot because a 25-man raid does.
That’s absurd and would only incentivize running a 10-person group over a 25-person one, as it would be more rewarding and easier on several levels.
It’s clear you’ve been influenced and indoctrinated into believing that socialism is beneficial. But you are wrong! It has failed numerous times in the past and wont survive in a video game either. The fairness of the game is evident as both 10-man and 25-man raids are nearly equal when it comes to a level playing field. However, it appears you’re unable to grasp this, remaining oblivious even when the facts are laid out plainly before you, continuing to deny the obvious.
The individuals in the 25-person group are not being bribed; rather, they are receiving compensation for participating in a larger raid group. Which makes the game equal and fair.
