Gear news 10m players you can now go onto the PTR right now and test out the staff since you won’t be getting it in game.
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We want the aquisition rate to align with the tier length. Its a 1 boss raid and any decent guild will be 6/7H in 3 weeks.
The staffs should come online 5 weeks in for both sizes to start helping guilds stuck with prog.
Getting our first one after rag has been hard farm for over a month is just dumb. People wanna swap to an alt or just take a break from raiding. No one wants to grind classic raids… hence why the game is basically dead right now.
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nice ChatGPT copy-paste bro
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Why? Because you made the choice to run 10man? So you feel entitled to being treated the same as those people who do 25man? Even tho 25man have 2.5 times the amount of players and 3 times the amount of casters in there group.
10 man raids will equip all three casters with their staves before 25 man raids manage to do the same.Absolutely not; if that were the case, then 25-man raids would not be viable.
If 10-man raids could create the staff at the same rate as 25-man raids, no one would run 25-man raids; instead, 10-man guilds would choose to run three 10-man raids.
If you want your staff faster run 25man raids. You make the decision to raid in a 10man format know one forces this upon you.
If blizzard did what you are asking this would FORCE people to run in 10man raids and not 25man. It would be the death of 25man raiding.
Don’t feed the troll, they’re extra dumb in Cataclysm.
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Blizz doesn’t care about 10m groups because GDKP kiddos now make up the majority of Classic players and the p2w crowd prefers 25m format.
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Should they just mail dragonwrath to you instead?
If you’re looking for instant legendaries, you’ll have to wait for Legion classic.
Crazy that gdkps go 13/13H meanwhile you’re hard stuck 7/13H.
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All this arguing is why they made Mythic raiding one size lmao. If they could have made a true “retail change” here, then it should have been making all raids 20-man from TBC and beyond. 10-man raiding was a mistake.
Wrong they actually made mythic raiding one size because it was easier to optimize that difficulty.
I keep trying to figure out why more people playing 10 man is the death of 25 man. Like have you ever considered it’s the revival of 10 man?
25 man has been generously rewarded with most real 25 man guildies being t11 bis in 3 weeks of launch of raids. The hardcores will obviously do split 10 mans. and… that’s a problem?
The hardcore will get their staff, and their bis and you or i won’t stop them. If we scale down to the average person/player, i think they could eat better for sure.
10 man item drops are pathetic as it is. The answer of “go join a GDKP for a week and speed up 3 months of gearing” can’t be the answer. yet that’s pretty much what all mid-range players do or think just to stay geared like a 25man is
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Honestly if more people are forced to play 10 man doesn’t that mean that blizzard will hot fix some buffs to the content and make it more of a challenge? isn’t that what all the 25man players say, “10 man easier”. with the rise in popularity it will definitely get more buffs to make it harder.
Then you now have two equally hard game modes and it’s your discretion if you want more friends or a tighter community.
It’s weird how equality is not the answer
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No 25man guilds roster was complete BiS in the 1st 3 weeks!!!
Well 10 man drops 2 pieces of loot 1pc per 5 people.
25man drops more as there is 2.5x more people in that raid.
If 10man raids offered loot of the same number of drops as 25man raids, players would lnot participate in the 25man raids.
This is why 25man is able to get the staff completed faster than 10man common logic.
It’s weird how you think it is!!! You’re so entitled to having everything handed to you that you can’t seem to comprehend basic common-sense knowledge when it’s presented to you. I bet you think Harris would make a good president to and Biden did a great job running America for the last 4 years.
The question arises as to why 10-man raids should be rewarded equally to 25-man raids. They obtain the same caliber of loot but in lesser amounts, which compensates for the size difference. This approach is deemed rational. Similarly, 25-man raids can gather their gear faster than 10-man raids because they have a larger number of participants. It’s a simple rationale. This is why the staff is acquired more quickly in a 25-man raid, as there are more people pursuing it.
The best guild on benediction has a handful of 372 players on week 3. Idk what server you’re on. Do you know why? because even in 25 man they still do splits. you can’t out-desire the level the most serious of players will go to be the best, have the best. 10 man, 25 man, splits are going to happen and that’s ok. This isn’t a competition nor do we get paid to be doing this.
My question is does that effect me? No. would me randomly having the same gear score as them effect them? Definitely not. It’s ok for everyone to be well compensated for their time. we literally pay 15 bucks a month for the privilege of having fun and feeling like we’re moving forward with a goal
I really feel like people underestimate how loot get distributed and not just how much of it pops out. It’s exceptionally generous to have a LC with 6 items to choose from and how to use that. You can reach goals , feats, and breakpoints never obtainable prior because you have multiple cracked out players in a lobby full of nobodies.
My open question to everyone is why does more people having the staff make yours do less damage? We’re trying to expedite the speed at which cata classic is live and more people stronger, faster, will only get us to where we need to be.
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As opposed to the felon that uses rhetoric that Germany in the 1930’s - 1940’s did?
Anyways, I don’t see a problem in allowing 10 player raiders from being able to get it at an even rate.
being charged with Felonies does not make you a Felon one must be convicted of Felonies to be a felon!!! You keep showing your lack of common sense!!!
That is one guild with a “handful of raiders” that is not full raid roster or multiple guilds as you suggested.
The fact is we are not talking about what the world first super sweat lords are doing. We are talking about the basic player and how if 10mans were able to get the staff at the same pace of 25man then 25man raids would not exist.
Which he was…
Edit: ALSO not you not denying the Germany part lmao
Are you or are you not afraid people will do 10 man splits? Because i can promise you anyone whos not a “super sweat lord” will not level 3 max toons ready to distribute loot effectively
Please declare your intent before any meaningful convo continues
Because it sounds like proposed changes won’t “kill 25 man” unless that’s the case. You would not trade loot manipulation for faster staffs. I promise you that
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Are you referring to Harris and her socialist comments? Because the period in Germany you mentioned was when Germany was under socialist rule. And Trump isn’t a socialist!
Also trump was charged not convicted google it no convections!!!
I contend that if 10-man raid groups were to acquire the staff at the same rate as 25-man groups, it would signal the end of 25-man raiding. Focusing on the actions of 1% of the player base has no significant impact on the remaining 99%.
The desire for 10-man raids to receive the same treatment as 25-man raids is understandable when fairness is considered. The fact that it takes longer to assemble a team for 10-man raids does not imply an unfair or an unequal playing field.
Just mute the same 2 people making it out like 10 or 25m raiders are competing factions lol.
The other 99.9% of us don’t care that the other raid side exists and just wanna have fun.
Give 25M a staff in week 1 and 30 drops a boss. I don’t care. Just make 10M reasonable because we wont get a staff or anyone in bis for months…
Edit: Apparently these idiots brought up IRL politics? Where are the Blizzard mods to perma forum ban these trolls. Such a disgrace.
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