Dragonflight Season 4 Dungeon Changes Ahead

[Gumblé-thrall]

It will likely be half and half. There will be people willing to teach and go slow, and people who just want to rush through the content as fast as possible.

Like always

[Adorability-moon-guard]

Since max gear will now be obtained from +10s can we make them harder?

[Sarama-firetree]

@Eyeseeu-dalaran

No one will invite me to theirs without any points or experience with levels that high.

The same people running 0 should still be running them in S4, one would think. I don’t see why they’ll be more exclusive, especially since there’s no timer to deal with.

[Daiza-gilneas]

LET’S GO!

After months of me whining about Heroic being pointless they finally did the thing! Thank the Light!

I honestly don’t care about anything else I should probably finish reading the article I’m just so glad they finally made this change lol.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Wrathlon-saurfang

Something everyone seems to be missing here:

• Affixes would slot in at +2, +5, and +10
  • +2 - Fortified/Tyrannical
  • +5 - Entangling / Incorporeal etc.
  • +10 - Bursting / Bolstering etc.

That would be the equivalent of no affixes until +15 and the really bad ones dont kick in until a +20.

Now consider that the loot scaling hasnt changed so what is currently a +18 and rewards Hero track in the dungeon and Myth track in the vault will become a +8.

Which means you can get Hero track end rewards and Myth track vault rewards without having to deal with the harder affixes.

Its going to make gearing alts and farming your vault easier, make currently irrelevant content worthwhile and have no real impact at all on people pushing as high as possible

I didn’t think about this but it’s kind of funny if it’s true.

Maximum mythic+ rewards without even having the 3rd affix lol.

[Gumblé-thrall]

Dawn is a Dragonflight dungeon, why would you think they would not have it on the list?

[Hpellipsis-whisperwind (Hpellipsis)]

@Adorability-moon-guard

Since max gear will now be obtained from +10s can we make them harder?

+10s will be the equivalent of the old system’s +20s, they also don’t give “Max gear”. They still give 6 ilvls below max when upgraded the same as they do now.

[Gumblé-thrall]

10s are effectively 20s currently. Just assume anything that is currently in M+ is the exact same, just subtract 10 levels from the key.

[Zenbéar-area-52]

This is really what the “changes” boil down to.

They have taken about 1/2 of the item level upgrades that were originally available in M+ and re-distributed them in heroic and M0 dungeons.

The other 1/2 of the item level upgrades available in M+ are now obtainable in +2 ~ +10.

[Brainard-area-52]

Wait Blizzard please listen trade Uldaman for DotI Fall please please please you can still fix this

[Brainard-area-52]

Don’t do Uldaman please I beg

[Kretyn-illidan]

528 I think, since Myth 2/4 is 522, which would make Myth 3/4 525, and Myth 4/4 528

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Gumblé-thrall

@Brainard-area-52

Actually; can I make a request to have DotI Galakron’s Fall instead of Uldaman next patch?

Please I beg of you, Uldaman was a nightmare

You’ll likely get both. Having any DF dungeon (DotI counts) in only ONE season of M+ would indicated failure on blizzard’s part in making that dungeon. Imagine the wasted man hours of making DOTI a M+ dungeon to only use it for 1 out of 4 seasons.

DF dungeons are the original 8 + DOTI. Count on it.

The post explicitly says:

“Season 4 changes will apply to all eight of the Dragonflight dungeons.”

So I don’t think DotI will be there. They also seem to really want to avoid the same dungeon being in back to back seasons.

[Adorability-moon-guard]

@Gumblé-thrall

10s are effectively 20s currently.

@Hpellipsis-whisperwind

+10s will be the equivalent of the old system’s +20s,

Works for me. I’m at work so could only skim.

@Hpellipsis-whisperwind

they also don’t give “Max gear”.

Well right, I just meant top EoD.

[Einherja-drenden]

There needs to be a means to farm Drake Crests outside of raid or weekly locked out M0s, or they’ll end up blocking gear upgrade progression in a way that none of the other currencies would.

[Egotistic-haomarush]

Would KSM and KSH stay at the same key levels for their requirement?
(14/15s for KSM and 17/18s for KSH)

[Rainsóng-area-52]

No, it’s prob +5s for KSM and ~+8s for KSH.

So kinda of but adjusted down 10 levels.

[Atolanos-area-52]

I would guess it will adjust accordingly. So KSM would be the new +6-+7s and portals the new +10s (Since those equal 15s and 20s respectively now)

[Hpellipsis-whisperwind (Hpellipsis)]

@Rainsóng-area-52

No, it’s prob +5s for KSM and ~+8s for KSH.

So kinda of but adjusted down 10 levels.

Also means unless you’re doing what are currently 20s or higher you only have 1 affix to contend with.

[Steinerr-stormrage]

i would hope thats the math. it would kinda suck to have 9 levels of keys where theres nothing to look forward to. no increase in ilvl for drops/vault untill you hit 20 again for the portal