The grummle were created during the reign of the mogu Emperor Tian. They were troggs changed using the powers of the waters of the Vale of Eternal Blossoms. Their arms were made stronger, their sense of direction and better, and their sense of smell more acute. They have strong cognitive skills: they know every mountain trail and never forget one.[6][7] Grummles are intelligent, and are considered shrewd negotiators.[8]
Im noticing a pattern here about proximity to fonts of arcane power and increased intelligence.
I know about your english, because you’re one of those 5 Europe-based NEFPAs who actually control the dozens of NEFPA accounts on these forums, constantly harassing everyone because Night Elves aren’t considered the greatest, and talking about how the Burning of Teldrassil actually harmed you in real life.
Some of us still remember you and your small group from back in the day.
This information is also wrong, Yaungol/Tauren have canonically been the first druids for years, so this weird insistence that Night Elves are “losing” something now if false. Night Elves lost first-“Druid” status long ago.
Well in the case of the Grummles specifically, they were shaped that way by the Mogu. This also applies to the Saurok and the Yaungol. All three were altered by the Mogu. It wasn’t something that happened naturally over time.
In the years that the titans were on Azeroth, the Vale of Eternal Blossoms was a place Freya created and experiment with forms of life, like Un’Goro Crater and Sholazar Basin. All three locations were places where the power of the Well of Eternity had coalesced. The Wild Gods emerged from these cradles of life.[4]
So like Azerite, they have an effect on intellect.
Chronicle I, page 89, states that Cenarius taught the Yaungol druidism sometime around 12k years ago, long before Malfurion was born. This was written in 2016.
Malfurion hasn’t been the first druid in a long time. So I guess the Night Elves are losers in all respects, not just not being the first practitioners of Life, but also not even being Cenarius first choice. Guess that means the NEFPAs have literally zero argument to make.
The consumption of vaporized kaja’mite causes a range of effects, such as heightened senses, hallucinations and increased intelligence. Stopping consumption of kaja’mite leads to a marked decline in intelligence however.[3]
The Zandalari trolls use kaja’mite for their rituals. Early in their history, the goblins were forced to mine it by the Zandalari who came to Kezan, desiring the mineral for their complex rituals.
That’s why the trolls are lesser intellegence. They ran out of kajamite while the NE’s had a sustained well.
Yes i know, and its not exactly hard to assume Kajamite might be a type of Azerite/a lesser version of it.
The difference seems to be while kajamite is needed to sustain said increase in intelligence, the effects of the well(and possibly Elune’s meddling) is permanent and does not need sustained waters from the Well of eternity.
I’m not arguing that, my issue is that once Blizz has applied that cultural label to them, they now have to put on sanitized gloves to deal with them because anything even remotely negative about this fake fantasy race will be analyzed and compared to their real life counterpart.
Zandalar can’t even have political instability or a civil war or else it seems too much like Africa, because African nations clearly never had civil wars before or after colonization. A new civil war literally just broke out this year but we’ll ignore that.
Now Elune is racist because she favored a group of Dark Trolls but because she changed them she must’ve thought they were dirty uggos before.
Or that a wizard would prefer the written word that remains unchanged on the paper (unless edited of course, whether originally a lie or not) over oral traditions that these cultures rely on because they previously didn’t have writing, but can be changed every time it’s passed down from person to person, either from memory issues or personal opinion.
There are aspects of oral traditions that can be helpful for learning about cultures and histories, like how we can potentially track the spread of Indo-Europeans via various cultures having similar stories that link back to the Indo-Europeans. But there are Native American cultures who believe their people have ALWAYS been there since creation or how they crawled out the earth, and we know that’s not true because science. Or literally just any real life religious oral traditions at all we know as not being true, so scientifically false.
While we are sanitizing races. Can we make the clearly white dominated Scarlet Crusades be less white? Or are we to believe only white people/the majority of racist have to be white?(really the biggest racist in game like Garithos/Daelin and the Scarlets seems,to have to be obligatorily white).
Can we have more black and asian looking humans that get said treatment as well?
Oh and if we are going to complain about pgymies, what about Dwarves? Pretty sure it isnt a very PC term nowadays.
All we’re asking for is Blizzard to stop relying on the “brown(-coded) people are dumb” trope. Is that really too much to ask in your eyes?
Is it really?
Nobody said they can’t have a civil war. You’re just missing the issue that was brought up.
Blizzard wanted Zandalar to feel more African than past troll content and all they could come up with was political instability and blood sacrifice. The most tokenized view of Africa.
Combining a tokenized vision of Africa with the pre-existing poor portrayal of the most racially-coded race (trolls) is certainly going to point to a trend, and all anyone is asking is perhaps the simplest thing to ask; do some simple research on a race if you’re going to code a fantasy race based on them. Like, read a Wikipedia article at least. Or stop trying to double-down on coding the fantasy race based on real world groups.
Is that really too much to ask?
Is it really?
I’m the one who made that connection, and I pointed out that it’s caused by bad writing alone, not that Elune is actually depicted as racist. But first I need to address your incorrect assumptions.
Elune didn’t change the dark trolls. The Well did.
Elune didn’t favor the dark trolls. She favored the night elves after they transformed.
Had it been a situation where Elune favored the dark trolls and led them to the waters to be transformed? Cool. No issue. And that is probably what the ultimate reveal will turn out to be, that the fae dragon that led the dark trolls to the Well were under her orders.
But currently the lore states that she didn’t care about the dark trolls at all until they became night elves, which does imply that she only cared about these people after they became smart and pretty.
I’m not saying that is racist. I’m saying that does look racist, and should be changed to just… Have her behind the fae dragon. Which, again, will probably be the case anyway.
You turned a minor observation into some big bugbear you think everyone is rallying against.
And written works are unchanging? Nobody’s ever gone back and taken whole sections of written works and changed them, or removed entire sections?
They did the same thing to Kul Tiras. It was a place of political instability and went with a Dickensian poverty of making children work horrible jobs for a heartless company.
And yes, there were also sacrifices being made to old gods by cultists.
Both Kul Tiras and Zandalar had plenty of issues so that we players could swoop in and save the day.