If ever there was thematically a better time to bring back a guild only masterlooter option for a player driven DKP loot systems this is it.
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no… just no
stop
bad cow!
*rolls up a newspaper and smacks Vincent in the nose
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Ion came out and directly said no to Master Looter.
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we used DKP in a guild called “My Pants” in everquest.
i liked it - it really promoted attendance.
you just showed up 100% of the time without spending on useless stuff and you’d end up in a good position to get whatever youd like eventually.
became a bit of a competition in itself - really good for attendance.
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yeah, but he also said he wanted more ability to share loot so less of it is wasted. Hard to tell what he means because everything is always filtered through plausable deniability with that guy.
I had really good experiences with DKP as a system.
I’m always on board with more player driven content.
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It is all fun and games until every weapon becomes hunter weapon.
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Look at what you’ve done!
BAD COW!!
GET! Get outta the house!
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I’m upstairs.
I physically cant.
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Screw you. A lot of people still want ML. Stop being so arrogant and dismissive in your response, as if the mere fact that ML is even being discussed in your presence is so annoying that you need to act like a complete jerk in your response.
If you don’t want to read another ML thread…move along. Blizzard asked for community feedback…here it is. We want guild only ML back.
He also said they were trying to engage with their community more and listen to our feedback, so he can tell me that ML isn’t coming back, and we can tell him he is being stupid and it’s a mistake.
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Nothing but crap experiences with DKP, Thankfully it will never return.
Calm your preverbial farm there mate, Almost everyone on the “We want ML” Side of the equation are perfectly fine with Personal loot if the trade restrictions are lifted because they unlike you, Understand that ML even when limited to guilds can still cause issues and be leveraged over people.
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Is it in the realm of possibilities that OP and MelBrooks don’t take internet seriously and are just joking around?
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DKP… Eh, it just promotes hoarding points for BiS items and allows for stupid trolling bids. Warriors getting healing items for their flask sets, etc.
I’d much rather stick with MS>OS rolling. Let the dice decide the fate of the item.
Of course, both of the above largely depends on whether the raid lead or ML is fair and can make reasonable decisions like not counting a roll/bid on a healing staff from a rogue wanting it for vendor spec.
DKP is great until those other raid members of your class who’ve been hoarding their DKP monopolize all the loot for weeks by dumping everything they have on bids, right before the guild dies and your DKP is forever unspent.
(this happened to me)
That’s literally just ML but with an xtra hoop to jump through and a TON of drama caused by people getting kicked from guilds for refusing to trade loot.
Either put the items on the boss’ corpse for the raidleader to distribute via ML, or put it in people’s inventory. Guilds can decide for themselves what system they want to use.
Don’t create a stupid system that puts items into random people’s bags that then need to be traded to a single person to then distribute. That’s just unnecessarily complex and destined to fail.
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Impossibru!
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The guild needs to come down to if they want to replace that raider, Or if they want to keep that raider, At the end of the Day ML allows one person or people to have leverage and Agency over others.
PLNR allows the individual to put forward the item if they believe it is better in someone elses hands, At the end of the day it provides the same functionality and that is allowing guilds to move loot around itself
While NOT allowing a guild or group of people to collectively screw individuals.
So as i said before, Calm your proverbial farm you are not winning anyone to your side of the fence by harrassing them and or calling names/acting like a child.
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Tradeable PL is so much better than ML because ninja looting is now impossible.
If the guild agrees that items will be distributed through Lootcouncil or whatever it adds about 30 seconds to trade the loot.
For every other situation it 100% prevents ninja looting while also letting players give away items they don’t need, or are maybe minor upgrades for themselves and large upgrades for someone else.
My hope is one day they will change the loot determination order from the current “pick who gets item, then select appropriate drop from boss” to “pick item from boss loot table, then select appropriate person with applicable loot spec.”
That would help reduce the amount of common items like capes and rings drop and stop stupid drop gaming and discourage class stacking and encourage bringing a variety.
Could just mean removing the trade restrictions that loot has currently. Like not being able to trade something because it’s a 1 ilvl upgrade for you.
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A toon named after one of the greatest names in comedy is just messing around???
GOOD SIR HOW DARE YOU!
HOW DARE YOU!
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