sad trombone
That’s pretty… lackluster and also predictable. Really? A Dreadlord… Again? “Madam Shadow” is a cringe as heck name too.
Yeesh.
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Lord Banehollow must be good at Spells if he can shove enough Spells into skulls to raise a Brown Orc to the Dragon Isles’ level of Skill.
Throw away Draenei NPC that says they preferred fighting fire with fire when the Legion was a threat. Probably standing around Stormwind.
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Yes and here’s why: You don’t have to be corrupted by fel magic in order to be a warlock. Warlocks don’t necessarily take fel magic into themselves, as we’re seeing with Lightforged Draenei. It could also mean uncorrupted by means of a curse, specifically the blood curse that Mannoroth put them under. There were plenty of brown-skinned fel-users in WoD, and I think Blizzard still considered those Orcs to be Mag’har because they had not yet been cursed by Mannoroth. I think there might have even been some brown skinned orc warlocks in TBC, but that could really just be a false memory.
Regardless I think this is a case of applying specific curses and thinking it means all fel magic does that. Fel magic doesn’t turn Draenei into broken, it was a specific curse on a subsect of the Draenei, likewise not any Orc who uses fel magic becomes green or red-skinned, only those with a specific curse put on them.
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This is false as orcs like Thrall are not considered Mag’har. And Thrall never drank the Blood of Mannoroth.
in fact AU Durotan was suspicious of Thrall when they first met.
Durotan says: I know your eyes don’t work, shaman, but this one has green skin.
Farseer Drek’Thar says: I do not need eyes to see it; they are noble of heart. They saved our kin – including your brother.
Durotan says: Very well, strangers. You have earned the trust of our shaman. I will not turn away your help.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Of_Wolves_and_Warriors
Again, Mag’har is not exclusively to “never drank the Blood of Mannoroth”. It meant “uncorrupted”, mainly w.r.t Fel magic regardless of the source.
Okay but he was still under the blood curse because the Orc’s bloodline was still cursed by Mannoroth.
Again, those are under the blood curse. Not every Orc was cursed by Mannoroth, as we see some Mag’har escaped this on Outland.
Read the rest of my post. There were brown-skinned Orcs in WoD who were part of the Shadow Council that used fel magic without being green-skinned.
By that logic the MU Mag’har orcs, such as Garrosh were also cursed. I mean his father, Grommash was the first to drink.
And the Frostwolves never drank either. Yet they still became fel corrupted from second hand exposure. The reason why the ones in the MU stayed with brown skin is because they were infected with Red Pox and were moved to Nagrand as a form of quarantine. The reason why Nagrand was chosen was because it was the least infected area of Draenor.
examples?
Why should I when you got important details wrong.
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I just assumed Garrosh was born before Grom decided to slurp demon juice.
He was. However he, along with other orc children from his generation were infected with Red Pox and were sent to Nagrand as a form of quarantine. It had nothing to do with them being sent away to avoid fel corruption.
No, because they weren’t under the blood curse. It has nothing to do with whether the blood was drunk. We’ve never been given any specifics on why a lot of Orcs on Outland avoided becoming green skinned, but it was related to the specific blood curse of Mannoroth.
Thrall is not Mag’har not because he didn’t drink the blood, but because the Orcs cursed under that blood line give birth also to blood cursed Orcs. It seems that is the case even after Mannoroth was killed, as Orc orphans exist in Orgrimmar, who are green.
You can be a green orc who has never even touched fel magic like the frost wolves. Why did the Frostwolves become green even though they didn’t drink the blood, and those in Nagrand not become green even though they also didn’t drink the blood? Because the brown Orcs were never exposed to the blood curse.
To be fair, this is the only example I could find and I don’t really care to scour every inch of Draenor looking for more, but there it is.
Calm down lol
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No it was not. And we have been given why they avoided Fel corruption.
They were infected by Red Pox or they looked after those that did. That is from Rise of the Horde and it is also referenced in TBC. I even provided that in my post. Are you Drahliana posting on an alt character / account? because it feels like you are.
Replace blood curse with Fel magic. Also the blood of mannoroth wasn’t really a ‘blood curse’ in the same vein as the curse of seethe.
Just gonna link this again.
Not to mention all the brown Orcs hanging around all the Shadow Council Warlocks who did not turn green despite all the fel magic around.
Hanging around fel magic using warlocks, not green.
Well no, the green skin was due to Fel exposure, not the blood curse. After all, Durotan, Doomhammer and the Frostwolves in general never drank the blood, but they got green skin. Grom Hellscream was the first person to drink it, but his son, Garrosh, did not get green skin because in addition to not drinking it, he was sick in Nagrand and not exposed to much Fel magic.
In truth I think Blizzard is just inconsistent with it. The canon explanation used to be the green skin was due to Fel exposure, but as you’ve pointed out there’s WoD orcs using it that don’t get it so who knows.
The new warlock questline specifically showcases all the new warlock combinations except Mag’har, which for whatever reason do not have an NPC present.
They all give their own reasoning for why they are becoming a warlock, and the quest specifically focuses on the Draenei initiate- specifically a LFD. It is very interesting and honestly I love it, despite really not feeling great at the initial announcement.
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As I demonstrated above, there are brown Orcs who are in the Shadow Council, hanging around with warlocks, a few of them even using fel magic themselves. It is not merely fel exposure that turns their skin green.
It’s possible that Blizzard’s original intention was something like that, but like the Draenei, fel exposure no longer causes such mutations on its own. Draenei turned into broken due to a specific curse, not fel magic alone. Much like the Orcs turning green skinned, or red skinned, or red skinned with spikes, or black skinned with spikes.
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I know, as I said Blizzard is just inconsistent with it. Maybe those orcs just haven’t been using Fel for long enough. Regardless, the Mannoroth curse was never what made their skin green, otherwise MU Mag’har wouldn’t exist at all and Garrosh would be green.
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“You’ve been playing your mag’har warlock for 6 months! Congratulations!
Your Mag’har Orc Warlock is now eligible for a (mandatory) race change to Orc Warlock!”
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It’d be cool if Orc Warlocks could choose to have red skin in the character customization. I proposed the same for Draenei Warlocks as well.
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Whether or not you’re Mag’har depends on one and only one thing… whether you were born or adopted into the tribe. If you start playing with the Fel, you’re still Mag’har even if they drive you out with torches and pitchforks.
On the mag’har thing there are high elf warlocks in Dalaran. In purge of Dalaran a high elf warlock or something feeds a blood elf to a shark in the sewer.
If elves kept the blue eyes and never fed on fel despite magical addition and being warlocks its possible that a Maghar warlock could also exist without the green skin I think. But it could do with some lore exposition.