Dracthyr/Evoker Glyphs

No. It is not. Dragons actually change their form, the same way a Druid does. An illusion would just make a viewer see a humanoid, but they would still be full-sized dragons. The same is true with Dracthyr. In visage form they have no tails, they have no wings.

Imagine Ms. Prestor standing in the corner of Stormwind Keep, minding her business and being all nefarious, and people keep bumping into her massive dragon form that fills the entire throne room, and not questioning WTF is going on.

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honestly , he is just here to argue, its been proven in multiple posts.

his solution to the dps problem is to give Dps Evoker another movement ability. Ranged is off the table for him.

id just report his troll self and move on

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i originally thought about this but thought it would be random and unable to actually get one you like so youd just be spamming it…

Then i got a Tauren… in my current xmog. Very nice indeed. I still think i would be spamming to get that one every time tho

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No sir or ma’am, its an illusion… Turalyon charged Mathias with finding a way to see through it. You can’t see through a physical shape change.

Watch at the 2:00 min mark.

Its kinda cool to live rent free in someone’s head… Loool you’re sad.

whats that billy? some one is stuck down the well?.. quick, jump in after him

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you are right. All articles hint towards Visage being a form and not an illusion.

and

Google definition of Vis¡age

/ˈvizij/

[image]

noun

  • 1.a person’s face, with reference to the form or proportions of the features:

Original Chromie short story explaining her choosing her visage and how it represents her as a dragon. No illusion magic here only the word Visage is used.

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Mage skill “illusion” : https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Illusion#:~:text=Illusion%20is%20an%20ability%20that%20allows%20a%20mage,at%20Sisters%20Sorcerous%20in%20Dalaran%20for%2050.%20Notes

Like i said, dudes a troll and doesnt know what he is talking about. Posts simply to get his post numbers up which i dont actually understand what the point of that is

All in game mentions of it never say its an illusion. They basically say they need a way to see through it. Which does not imply Illusion or magic. They also looked for a reason to remake the plague to convert all undead from arthas control, but look at what happened, Wrathgate. Also the last time they did legit science in wow lol

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Lol you’re such a pedantic child… None of that which you posted makes it anymore clear than what Turalyon tells Mathias. Visage is obviously magical in nature and more akin to an illusion than a shape change in the way of Worgen or Druid. I’m sure visage is stronger than any normal illusion however, I seriously can accept when I’m wrong but I bet the answer is more of somewhere in the middle.

Have a good day.

usually id debate this, but my guild leader literally uses no transmog and his character looks like a clown lol.

The hilarious part is he says that but spends most of his time on the forum whining about permanent visage because he don’t like the appearance of Dracthyr. Can’t make this stuff up… :rofl: :clown_face:

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Yeah all of this, plus if they were an illusion… how would dragons like Onyxia have fit through doors etc.

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didnt you hear, certain people who think Onyxia was an illusion also thought they rebuilt stormwind castle every time she walked through a doorway…

Some people i swear lol

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The Visage magic the true dragons have used, and that we drakthyr have access to, wasn’t full shapechanging, but it isn’t full illusion either. It is in many ways like some of the legends of old fae glamour. It’s an illusion, but one so powerful and skillfully crafted that even reality accepts it as truth.

Lore is not 100% consistent on this, but there are for sure some examples that reinforce the notion of it being an actual shapeshift, like when Korialstraz is too weakened to go back to his dragonform in the war of the ancients triology and pretty much acts as a human mage for all purposes.

So, it can also be seen as a form to help with recovery, as we also seen when Alextrasza lost her duel with Deathwing, se went back to her visage and was rescued by the player on that form. (Not sure if they tought about that when they gave the visage an out of combat regen aura, but it would kind of make sense if that was the reason)

Also, i also used to believe that as a shapeshift they should always return to their original forms if they die as you would expect of a druid, but not even that is a guarantee, as seen in the shortstory Hellscream, when Garrosh murder Kairozdormu and his corpse remais as his visage of an orc even months later when the player, Chromie and Kadhgar finds him.

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I would love to see the visage glyph.

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Just getting back to WoW and I stumbled across this.

He literally says “see through those VISAGES”, not illusions. Also, you’re taking the obvious ignorance (in fact the whole point of that conversation - they didn’t know) of Turalyon as verification, meanwhile obvious physics gets thrown out the window.

With the start of Beta officially announced, it feels like we can safely say goodbye to any Draktyr cosmetic changes.

My copium / hopium has changed with their statement (Think it was on twitter somewhere), that they want to unlock Draktyr to other races “early” in TWW, maybe in a Draktyr focused patch in which we get all we asked for and more since they listen to our good feedback >_>

Out of curiosity, when was the last time this game saw new glyphs for…well…anything?? It seems that feature has been pretty much abandoned, but I could be wrong.

Yeah, its been forever, I think the last Glyph they worked on was the one for shadowform to make it less dark. But apart from that the system is pretty much done (thought I think I recall an interview some time ago in which they said they’d like to revisit it).

Most of the cosmetic things nowadays go via the barber shop. I’d imagine IF we ever get any visage form freedom and stuff like that it would go with the barber too.

The non-Dragon-Form issue can kind of be solved in TWW with the Race transform scrolls from enchanting. Though they have one hour duration with two hour cooldown (working on that with alpha feedback)

Legion, which was the last expansion before they started abandoning actual retail design and innovation and proceeding to sell recycled classic content and less systems and expansion content with the beginning of BFA onwards.

If you look at the BFA>SL>DF arc, you see that each expansion gets smaller systems, until it has none in DF, most of the content is short-lived fluff like fishing for the walruses or taking pictures on a raft, truncated storylines that are poorly developed before the next expansion, and you still pay the same or higher box price.

Look at Legion:
Artifact with a unique artifact ability for each spec.
Each artifact a talent tree of its own, with active new visuals and gameplay.
5 artifact skins, uniquely tailored aesthetics for each spec artifact.
4 color tints per artifact skin.
Class mount with a class mount questline. Some specs even have color variations
Spec legendaries.
Order halls with a unique class quest line and an additional spec side quests.
Mage Tower with split challenges and storylines per spec role.

And now compare that to what you got for the same price in BFA, Shadowlands, or DF.

WoW’s dev team is a ghost of the Legion dev team.