Dracthyr tail swipe removal

[Dextructive-tichondrius (Dextructive)]

It is indeed quite bizarre. The other one involving the wings, if anything, should have probably been reserved for the Evoker class as utilization of Draconic energies over the wind or something… Whereas every Dracthyr, I’d imagine, can swipe their tail just as effectively as part of their average physiology, and especially on the melee archetype Nevertheless… IIRC they both shared a long cooldown, or were even a choice node! I don’t see why this couldn’t have been kept unchanged, or even get an increased cooldown rather than forcing y’all to choose one over the other…
I suppose in a toss-up between a knock back, and a knock-up… the latter was chosen because it’s more uniquely disruptive?
I’m not sure how to feel about (from a Druid’s perspective) basically more classes just having access to a version of Typhoon. In-fact… on the other hand, I wish Dracthyr could be Druids so I could drop the talent and invest the point somewhere else and also cuz I love Visage. I’ve always wanted to be a Half Elf.

[Melustrasza-wyrmrest-accord]

Shared CD, reduce the nerfed CD to 2 minutes (maybe 2 30 at absolute worst), make cd reduction one talent on the evoker tree, there, everything’s cleaned up

@Dextructive-tichondrius

The other one involving the wings, if anything, should have probably been reserved for the Evoker class as utilization of Draconic energies over the wind or something…

The wings aren’t powered by magic though, wing buffet is just shoving people with the wings.

@Warthinator-earthfury

You keep your tail swipe. It’s a base talent now. The premise of this thread is false.

Only Mage, Hunter and DH should be allowed to have arcane torrent then? Cause that’s the logic to me. Those are respectively the shared elf hero class and the classes so iconic to blood elves that they had artefacts related to their homeland in Legion (and hunter even has the only icons depicting a blood elf). Nothing else should get those iconic things.

[Asterithel-moon-guard]

@Laeuko-draenor

Visage form can glide too no reason to remove it, but a cool down for it probably not since it’s like a demon hunter glide.

A cooldown for glide would be as bad as removing it. Also, it had nothing to do with being able to use it in Visage. Just me being grumpy that so many people are calling to remove it.

Removing Tail Swipe was silly too. It would have been better if they had just had them share a cooldown. Let people choose which they want to use, and remove the shared cooldown from Evoker.

[Kahzulvey-stormrage]

@Asterithel-moon-guard

It would have been better if they had just had them share a cooldown. Let people choose which they want to use, and remove the shared cooldown from Evoker.

I made a post on this in the correct category in case you want to move the discussion on that exact point there :

Bring back tail swipe, put it on a shared CD with wing buffet

Like the title states, removing tail swipe is a nuclear solution. Tail swipe wasn’t that powerful to begin with since it’s not a hard stop anymore, so if it needs any balancing at all, just put it on a shared cooldown with wing buffet. Removing tail swipe is removing a part of the race fantasy of playing as a dragon (which is already pretty impacted without evoker abilities).

[Thelgrim-bloodsail-buccaneers]

@Shaleraz-emerald-dream

Never. I’m simply enjoying watching non-Evoker dracthyr get neutered piece by piece.

touch grass and take some vitamin d supplements if you see the sun this little.

[Shaleraz-emerald-dream]

@Sathrogan-emerald-dream

i see a lot of people losing their minds. THIS is what should actually happen for Dracthyrs. They should be able to, like a talent, outside of combat change between tail swipe or wing buffet. Additionally, removing the thrust mechanic on their glide for non-evokers. This makes it so that only “specially trained” dracthyr have powerful wings or tails to use that move, and glide is no longer a speed increase for classes that would be broken with it.

Thank you. It’s incredible how upset people are getting simply because they wanted to be OP half elves with draconic racials.