You could argue that yeah but at the same time they were created from all 5 flights which were harnessed from the primal elements of azeroth and no affiliated at all with the cosmic powers. So no Fel, Void, or Light based stuff.
Of course I cant see them trying to wrap their claws around stuff to use as weapons either
Oh, I’d very much like to see some fire based paladin spells for my dark iron.
He’s still a believer in Ragnaros and wants to see him reborn, the whole paladin heathstone card would be a cool way to bring him back when Azeroth hatches.
Yeah Dark Iron are very much tied to Ragnaros
I like your ideas for potential options. I don’t necessarily think they’d need Priests. But Deathwing was known to also throw void corruption into his experiments, making the Twilight Dragons. So while I don’t believe they were made during a time where the void was experimented with, I wouldn’t throw it out entirely.
Yeah, I don’t think that Deathwing would have been experimenting with the void back then but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t learn how to utilize it if they wanted to.
I stopped reading this at like 700 comments so maybe what I’m about to suggest has already been covered.
It would seem the mutual ground would be to eventually create an additional class for the Dracthyr.
Since, they are innately tied to the Dragonflight and the abilities that are going to come along with it. Maybe it would make sense to create a class that has them harness those abilities in a different way? Such as a tanking dragon who casts spells, relies on scales as tough as steel, uses their claws and tail for attacks etc.
Could even have a melee dps spec for this where the dragonflight powers are again harnessed in such a way to suit that role.
It would still be a class solely tied to Dracthyr
But it would open the race up to more players wanting to fill a variety of roles while still playing as a dragon.
I feel like if they’re really wanting to do this race/class combo then they shouldn’t allow Dracthyr to play ANY classes in the game currently. They should piggy back off of their idea and find ways to stay true to it while adding variety and pleasing a lot of fans.
My logic is that not all mages use their power for evil, not all for good, some use it to rain destruction while other create illusions. I could go and on. Individuals are different and find different ways to harness the abilities within them.
BOOM.
No current classes introduced to Dracthyr (Honestly, you’d get bored and the newness would wear off because at the end of the day, it’s the same thing you’ve always had.)
Instead, new class with tanking/melee dps spec that sees the Dracthyr harness the dragonflight powers in such a way to suit their role and fit in with Blizzards visions.
This also prevents anything from being Overpowered.
As someone stated, you can’t have a warrior with evoker abilities. That’s too strong.
Instead, you’ll have a Dracthyr that has the abilities to tank and deal melee damage through powers granted from this innate connection to the dragonflight.
While I like the idea based on new class release rates, that would be pushing Tanks out of the race for likely 6-9 years as we wait on them to do that, and even if faster people will complain that whatever new class they want got sidetracked for something they will then say we should have gotten with DF.
And you are right we can’t have other classes with Evoker powers, but Ion Said opening up other classes might, possibly, maybe happen down the line. Which would imply that the race abilities are not intrinsically tied in to the class to the point they are inseparable.
Regardless of what the class is, the race is still a Dragon.
Are you saying Allied Races or Worgen, or really anything beyond the classic 8 races are boring? Because that is effectively what you’re saying.
They’ve stated that Evoker can only be Dracthyr due to the magic of the class, and their animations, but that doesn’t impede the Dracthyr from being other things, as per Ion’s words, and some sentiments from the rest of the team.
This restriction is no different then say a Druidic restriction, which was in place until BfA. Where only certain races would get them, under very certain circumstances.
But given that Dracthyr are there own people, it makes sense that they would do other classes down the line.
Not to mention that Current Dragons in the game, use abilities and powers from other classes, namely Mage and Shaman. Which the basis of in-game NPCs using similar abilities, is the WHOLE reason that Zandalari got to be Paladins, as initially they weren’t going to get that option.
True, but again, Brian Holinka has stated that the Dracthyr Racials are just a Tail Sweep, and a Wing Buffett. Which are still Dragon abilities, but they aren’t Evoker abilities. IE: You won’t be flying around the battlefield as a Dragon Warrior. You’d instead just play it like a regular warrior, who has a few dragon flavor-text abilities really. Like all other racials.
Initially I was waiting to comment further until we knew more about them. But I shall just bump the post when we know more I suppose.
Personally, my opinion is, Dracthyr can’t be tanks because they haven’t done the animations and programming for them to be tanks yet. So they want to release them and will plan on working that in later. Not something they’d want to put that way exactly. It’s a big maybe thing.
I think you’ll get your dragon tanks eventually. But it’s not in the cards now because of the additional work needed. And they are more interested in getting this thing into testing so they can open preorders which will boost the subs.
Thats my opinion. I’m not calling it a good thing or a bad thing.
I completely agree with this. They likely haven’t had the manpower/resources to animate them doing anything beyond the two Evoker specs. So it’d be quite the undertaking to add in spell animations for them, and make sure they don’t morph the body in a gross manner (like wings going through the body) for a lot of the other abilities.
I must disagree there.
Because if they are able to wield weapons ( which they are), they will have a striking animation with either dragon claws or with the weapon as soon as they go into melee with the class.
Also the skeleton of the race is not a new one and already used in other enemies, as far as it is seen.
Kind of boring if all they did was a striking animation… don’t you think?
They said they are open to it having more classes down the line but at launch just Evoker. It will more then likely happen and hopefully during the expansion itself versus the one after.
Honestly I’d rather they focus on more important things like talents, gameplay elements in the world, systems like the professions, etc. More class options for Dracthyr would be awesome I just don’t feel it’s as important as making sure this expansion is as good as possible.
I get why there needs more class options but just not super important or game breaking that it doesn’t say launch.
But it is, a few streamers have done comparisons, the rigs and animations are different.
It wouldn’t be the first time they made something exclusive, just look at playable demon hunters for example.
“But muh lore, Den, muh lore!” you might say, to which i respond that’s the exact same response about the Dracthyr. They wield magic of the dragonflights and as such haven’t trained in the ways of the warrior etc.
…and can we make MORE THAN 1 (per realm) please Blizz?!
I’m not opposed to having more options, but I don’t see a NEED for Dracthyr to have other classes added to it.
At least at the start of the expansion it wouldn’t make sense. But later on they can go crazy.
Hero classes were always restricted at the start just to counter botting to an extent.
As for the race, I don’t see why they will stay restricted once we get more class options.
Yea. My warrior has been one of each race now. My main one. Faction and race changed it to be everything. But now cannot be a drac.