Dracthyr, NEED more Classes

naw, they have 1 non-binary gender. Check out the promotional material.

The Dracthyr have male and female genders though?

Their chosen representation to the world, which is their visage form, like other dragons. Is either a male or a female.

The Dragony form, is more androgyny-esque, yes. But Dragons in most lore sources don’t have very massive identifiers of male or female. We already know we will get to pick more masculine or feminine heads, as well as one of 3 torso sizes, that range from slim, what was previewed, and bulkier.

All Dragons are like this in WoW, they have a gender, but you mainly can only tell the gender in their humanoid forms.

I realize it might be harder to tell at times, considering Onyxia, a female Dragon, once took on a male humanoid illusion. But still, she was a female dragon all the same, and laid eggs, just like how Deathwing was a fertilizing dragon.

I’m legit scared of this, because like I LOVE the IDEA of Paladins, but I can’t stand their gameplay. However, I HAVE to love Evoker, because I WILL main a Dracthyr. lmao

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thanks, but male and female forms would be great as a PC in a fantasy world, not just non-binary.

Better example, Chromie, dragon form has the male naming scheme, so might be a male dragon, but her “mortal form” is a female gnome.

Then let me put it bluntly: the form is the standard dragon based form, it is just that they lack the distingusihing features, bets you are going to get is thing that either gender can have but are more prominently on one gender or the other, I.E. bulkier body for males, slimmer for females, etc.

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Fair, but we don’t know for SURE that Chromie is actually a dude or not. But we do know that Onyxia for sure was in a male form for a time to trick people, despite being a female dragon.

They do have them though? If you select male, then when you go to visage form, you’ll look like the Male Belf Model, and if you chose Female, you’ll look like the Female Human model?

You just won’t for sure know in Dracthyr form, which gender the dragon is, but it will have one. Personally I’ll make my female Dragons have a more Slim/Girly head option, as we’ve seen they have more male looking heads, and female heads for the dragons. I’ll also likely give my female Dragons, the smallest body, just for visual distinction from my males, will get the middle, or maybe the bigger one, depending on if it’s like Belf/Human bulky or Draenei bulky, because I don’t my male dragon to be that bulky, lmao.

yes, I saw your wall of text before this one. Understand that people want different things from your twink visage that will not be seen in combat.

Eh, only human form I know of for Onyxia was Lady Katrina Prestor while her brother, Nefarion, took on the male form.

I understand the push away from two genders and into modern non-binary narrative. There is nothing to explain.
For this new race to really be fire, giving it a male options for people who enjoy playing males, and a female option for people who enjoy playing females, in addition to (not taking away) the androgynous female DH rig.
A little diversity is all this class/race exclusivity needs.

I thought, she once pretended to be Varian, I could be wrong though.

Uh…what? How do you consider either of those a ‘twink’ also, seems like a hateful way of wording things.

not at all. I let ppl enjoy things. Enjoy your androgynous skink, no big woop. But you’ve tried to tell me in several comments now that I shouldn’t enjoy what I want. You’re not for diversity? You can’t just let me want an established staple in WoW character creation?

Then let me reiterate,: can you tell the difference between a male and female lizard? how about a male and female crocodile? there might be some ways, but at a quick glance, no way.

I get that you want diversity, but as far as this race goes, outside of different head and body shapes, which could easily be shared by both genders, what would constitute “male” and “female”? At least without going into 18+ territory (most I have seen any of them wear in dragon form is tabard like).

Clearly you don’t, as you tried to state that they didn’t have gender options, and they do. They also are providing different looking heads and body types. For said diversity.

Calling a body a twink body, because it’s not say as big as a male Draenei, is crazy. Have you tried using a mount with one of them? They look ridiculous, because how swole they are. lol

It would also be lore breaking if say Boobs were on the dragon form.

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I didn’t bring up any comparisons, that’s you creating hyperbole. Which is rich because saying draeni are too big for mounts in a world where you’re excited to play an androgenous bipedal lizard doesn’t really hold water.
You shouldn’t expect to have a fantasy world presumably based off feedback just your way. Didn’t think I’d have to reiterate this again; Let people enjoy things you don’t identify with. You can literally ignore what other people are into that you aren’t into, as long as it’s harming nobody.

I brought up the comparison of a Draenei, you mentioned the current size body is a twink body, even though it’s got more male features then female in standard Dracthyr previews.

You’re the only one coming in here, not using logic, or anything, you’ve only just used terms like twink, and tried to say they didn’t at least have a gender difference.

Which to be frank, what fantasy universe has dragons that are distinct looking between genders?

Like c’mon.

If you can come up with a way to tell the difference between the genders in dragon form, without going into 18+ territory, you can have your wish, but if you can’t, accept the different head and body styles as enough and drop it.

Because, how you are coming across, is unless the females have visible breasts and males a bit more “down there” there is no male/female form.

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You’re obviously taking this personally.
I literally said nothing more in this thread than “add male and female genders too, thanks”. Just like every other character creation convention we have.
Didn’t need your multiple novellas gaslighting me that I’m “not using logic”. But I’m also going to defend my very based, reasonable opinion.

You disagree, you’re fine.

Me: Well, lets see what General Discussion is complaining about today…

(five minutes later)

Me: Ah, same thing as yesterday. Flying. Dracthyr looks. Dracthyr can’t be tank. Yup yup. Same… Ah, Dracthyr visage not manly enough… ok, same yup. Nothing new here… Just another 500 threads.

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And what has been said is they have such, but they LACK THE FETURES OFTEN CONNECTED TO SUCH.

You are the one that is too dense to realize that what often marks male/female as people view such does not make sense on just about any creature that is not a mammal.

Using creatures in game: could you tell the difference between male and female Saurok? how about murlocs/gorlochs? if it was not for her title of queen, and the regalia to match, could you tell the mantid queen was female?

The new race is more or less like those creatures when in dragon form, it will be up to how the player designs their dragon, and their imagination, to determine the gender in dragon form.

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To be fair, what did you expect, the new expansion was just announced, of course that is what the forums will mainly talk about, lol.

What you said:

You literally likened the Blood Elf Male form, which arguably the nicest, more human esque male model we have, and is ripped mind you, as a “twink” form. Which side bar, that doesn’t even constitute what “twink” is in the sense that I’m 99% sure you’re trying to use for it. You followed it with:

Which, the Dracthyr form does have traditionally male features, ie: no boobs/kinda looks like a somewhat potentially muscular chest, and will include a bulkier form to some degree as well, from what the Devs have told us.

There will also be a skinnier form, to what they’ve shown as well, I don’t know how you could get more female then to slender things down, and look like it has a less dense muscular structure when compared to a male.

BUT even then, most lizards look the same aside from their heads if that, besides their naughty bits that is.

So, what, were you expecting them to put boobs on the Dracthyr? If so that would be a huge undertaking because they’d need to update/change a lot of the other Dragon forms in the game.

I just want to impress upon you, that Dragons in this game aren’t just one gender, they have two genders, but we don’t ever see the difference in the game. Heck, Alexstraza has never looked more girl like then Nozdormu or Deathwing.

So what exactly are you wanting? Because you never really told us how your version would be different/what you think they should have.

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tl;dr, but I did notice you’ve said twink 4 or 5 times now. Are you reporting my posts and crying victim while simultaneously harassing me in a dead disagreement?