not all of em are green.
the elements are choosy on who gets what.
most form contracts, which is why goblins themselves are shamans.
im aware of this.
They have powers of all the flights.
True, but it is not a stretch that black flight powers helps with that.
Regardless its a more of “See and find out” kinda thing.
most likely they’d get earth/fire as a free start, but have to talk too wind and water about it.
On the side of why Dracs would even consider other classes given their natural abilities:
The ones we are getting access to from the start are Evokers only. Meaning, they use the magic they were born with. But what if there are others who just couldn’t get the hang of it? They exist, but no matter how hard they try, they aren’t very good at it. Then all these other races come in and teach them. Suddenly other Dracs who couldn’t really make it as a solid Evoker are now Warriors or Hunters. Maybe some of them do better with the elementals and can’t just harness that raw draconic power well, so they become Shamans.
I get why we would only have the initial class to start, but there are plenty of reasons some of the race might want to aid in battles, but just couldn’t cut it as an Evoker.
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Yeah, I agree that shamans are kind of dubious. Though, if a goblin can make a deal with them despite all of the damage to the environment, I think basically anybody could.
It’s just a matter of explaining it is all. haha
My main want is warrior, ultimately.
Viking Santa here loves dragons and wants to play as many of them as possible.
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Only the litch king can make a death knight and the helm of domination is gone now so know more dk can be made in other words
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the knights of the ebon blade can make em actually.
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Powerful lichs and death knights can raise more death knights, this is shown during the legion DK campaign.
tho the ebon blade wouldn’t have much too have a reason to recruit, save for to clean up the scourge.
actually that is their current mission now.
i think their classes can be:
*Druid = Green dragonflight
*Mage = Blue dragonflight
*Warrior = Earth dragonflight
*Shaman = Green + Earth dragonflight???
*Priest = Void dragonflight(the one from BfA) or make a Light dragonflight???
*Warlock = maybe nether dragonflight???
*DK = maybe Arthas/Bolvar dragons got free when Sylvanas destroy the Helm of Domination???
*Rogue = the pirate dragon from Tazavesh dungeon
Dracthyr are a hybrid that was engineered by Deathwing.
They only comprise of Blue, Green, Red, Bronze, and Black Dragonflights.
So the DK and Priest options you mentioned technically don’t apply for them.
The Pirate dragon technically counts though, as the Infinite flight is an extension of the Bronze dragons.
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Warrior, DK, Paladin, Druid, Monk, Demon Hunter can tank. Currently, 50% of classes can tank. 8 melee dps, 1 ranged
Priest, Paladin, Druid, Shaman, and Monk can heal. 41% of classes can Heal. 1 melee dps, 3 ranged dps,
Mages, Warlocks, Hunters, and Rogues are pure dps classes. 8 Ranged DPS options, 4 Melee DPS options
There are 6 Tank Specializations, 6 Heal Specializations, 13 Melee DPS Specializations, amd 12 Ranged DPS Specializations. Across all classes.
Every tank, melee dps, and holy paladin MUST play in melee range to be effective. 20 Specializations are required to be in melee range.
The remaining 17 specializations can be effective at range.
Only 3 classes can be played exclusively at range. (Warlock, Mage, Priest). This is currently 25% of the class pool.
Evokers need to have 0 melee options
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Are you intending to refer to the race here, as this thread is about the race getting more options. Or are you referring to the class.
Because Evoker and Drachtyr are different, and others have blurred them.
I agree with you, that Evokers don’t need a melee option. HOWEVER, Dracthyr do need more then just Evoker as an option.
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They wouldn’t know it, but evoker is the hero class. The other dracthyr could be like a normal allied race and start out in the city learning the new class very easily. The dracthyr/evoker starting zone probably is tailored to that hero class. But they can be new to the other classes, they don’t need to be hero classes for all the classes.
I don’t see why I can’t start out at lvl 10 in orgrimmar as a dragon warrior/shaman/mage/rogue in visage form. And use the dragon form as an optional form, and using dragon racials that turn me into a dragon briefly.
They go into this whole trouble of making a new race and making it so limited, they basically robbed the fun out of a new race by the very limited combo. It would be like pandaren only getting monk, void elves only getting shadow priests, nightborne only getting mages, lightforged only getting paladins/priests, highmountain only getting hunter.
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Right now I feel like Evokers are basically being a bahamut summon. If they gave the class to other beings I think they could have made it work like a dragon summon/ fusing with a dragon sort of like demonhunter. But I doubt evoker will ever do that.
It would have been nice to see like a summoner sort of thing and how they like fuse/combine actions with eidolons. But right now evokers are basically just magic dragons only which is wasted potential for those that wanted a full reptilian race and line up of classes to choose from. Probably a dragon rider sort of approach would have been nice for other races.
I think you hit the nail on the head when it comes to the nagging problem i have had about this. you are right, by having a race locked to a single class is no longer feels like a race, it just feels like a class with some extra customization.
I am really supersized they did not give a black dragon themed tank spec to the Evoker class, since an earth warder tank seems perfect and that whole vibe sounds like it would be really cool to play. but even if Evoker did get one, it wouldn’t solve the problem of it still only being one class. And as others have stated, completely removing all possibilities of a tank spec from an entire race eliminates it as an option for a large chunk of the player base who like to play tanks.
I think that strong arguments could at least be made for the following:
Warrior: this a shoe-in. how can a hulking armored lizard not have what it takes to be a warrior? How can an Earth Warder not be seen as a capable fighter? what about the other hulking dragonkin that the flights have used? they certainly look like warriors to me. (not to mention the hilarity of being able to be the fair maiden, the knight and the dragon all at once is too good to pass up. )
Shaman: Considering that dragons are supposed to be protectors of the earth/ life and they have primal ties to the elements in their past, i think one could argue shaman without too much fuss. They even had the world shaman stand in for them as the Earth Warder in Cata.
Mage: Blizz was out here saying that none of the existing classes could fit well with dragons but you have Kalecgos himself listed as a frikkin mage and hes on the Kirin Tor council of six! What screams magic more than blue dragons?
Druid: now granted i would not expect this one to come to pass simply because they would have to make new cat/bear ect models but like, the Emerald flight has always had very close ties to druidisim. Ysera is Cenarius’s adoptive mother for crying out loud! The green flight borderline live in and protect the emerald dream! Also see above mentions of being guardians of life.
Then there is my rapid fire bonus round of options I can’t argue strong ties for and don’t necessarily expect but would not see as being completely out of left field if they were added.
Rogue: shapeshifting dragons have often used stealth and guile to manipulate and ambush mortal races. Hunter: literally everything can be a hunter. you tame animals and shoot things. if mortals can do it you can too. not to mention Dragons themselves are about the biggest apex predator out there. if anything can hunt big game, its them. Pally: i could see a possible argument for Pally in a similar vein as Tauren worshiping the sun rather than directly worshiping the light. So perhaps Red dragons that worship life/ life giving flames could become Pallys of a sort.
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In dragonflight dracthyr will just be evokers. deal with it. They said more might come someday. that’s all you’re gonna get.
people didn’t blur them. That’s what blizzard wants it to be. They are dragons. With dragon powers. they did’t want them doing anything else
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Never say never friendo!
Anyway, I do think the line has been blurred in that people are confusing the class for the race and vice versa when they aren’t the same thing (even currently.)
We’ll ultimately see what happens.
Really, I just want to keep talking about it until we get a hard yes or no (even if it’s later!)
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They never said more classes wouldn’t come in DF. Just that it won’t happen at launch, and adding more is a definite possibility. The “Just deal with it” response in a thread talking about their wants for the game, just makes people come off as very jerk-ish for little to no reason at all. Like if the discussion is starting to bother you, then please just put it on mute.
People are blurring them
Blizzard WANTS them to be a separate thing, as in the RACE and CLASS are both separate.
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