their income was released only a few weeks ago.
they are a public company
so they have to report their earnings.
I do, I also realize that the year hasn’t ended yet, and you all can speculate all you want, the fact you are even doing it is disgusting. No matter what they will donate at least 3 million, I encourage you to contact the charities and state how displeased you are by that fact alone see how they react. They welcome these kind of donations, and are always grateful. You can all speculate, you jumped on a bandwagon of people who think this is the only thing Blizzard donates in a year. Feel free to actually read back…
They should do like last time and have ALL profits for X amount of time go to the charity, not put a cut off on the amount. That. Is. Scummy.
If that were truly the case they would donate themselves rather than use a middleman where they get a pet as a reward for doing so through Blizzard. I guarantee you a lot of people don’t particularly give a damn about the charity itself past it helps them sleep at night pretending they did something charitable and are just buying the pet.
Maybe they conned themselves into thinking that because they paid for a pet that they’re charitable but again, true charity requires altruism to be present. Altruism is only present when you do not knowingly benefit from your actions. I.E the difference between “Oh I bought this pet through Blizzard so they can donate proceeds.” and “Oh I donated 10 dollars to Blizzard to give to a charity organization and without my knowledge they mailed me a pet as a thank you.”
The former isn’t altruism because you directly know what benefits to you your actions will incur. Whereas the latter you didn’t know about so you can’t really argue it isn’t altruism because in that moment you did so out of kindness, not seeking a benefit unless you donated and expected a reward for doing so.
Sure, let’s just disregard the BILLIONS of dollars that Activision-Blizzard makes from other games and IPs, and millions of dollars that they make from other things in WoW, such as WoW Tokens, Subscriptions, other digital Blizzard Store Items, Physical Blizzard store items like the Dottie Plush (which ISN’T 100% of the profits to Charity, of course), etc.
Acting like the artists are going to be out of a job because Blizzard is giving the proceeds of one of their works to charity is just ridiculous.
See, you keep trying to envision in your mind I am complaining. I am merely voicing my opinion that it isn’t charity and giving my reasoning for arriving to that conclusion. That isn’t complaining and if you think it is you have a very broad definition of what constitutes as “complaining.”
I don’t know if you’re illiterate or what but that is literally what I said where you quoted. “Most people when they see “Charity” are going to presume a donation involving altruistic intent.” to which you replied with what I quoted. These are the same things.
I brought this up because you chose to draw parallels on “Well it’s called a “charity” pet because they donate to a charity.” and I was explaining that just by the way it is structured and presented, it is meant to give off that impression because it makes it seem more generous than what it truly is which is basically just a PR move, an attempt to profit, and a tax write off all in one.
Not disputing this, but don’t claim your actions are charitable when you are directly doing so for a benefit. If you bought this pet, you weren’t really donating to the charity as far as I see it. You were paying for a pet and the proceeds just happened to be donated to an organization and said donation just happens to result in a corporate tax write off as well as a cash in on some good publicity because all people see is “Oh they did a good thing!” when in reality they did this for very likely financial reasons with the added benefit of good PR because people will presume they did so through altruistic intent, and until I am provided proof they don’t write this off on their taxes, I will always see it as such.
That’s pretty much what they’re doing by having this very likely serve as a tax write off. The only difference being if they do it like this, their financial benefit comes at a later point in time, but they get to cash in on some good publicity because like I said, people will just presume “Oh they’re so charitable and gave of themselves!” because that’s the connotation that “charity” and “donation” hold in the minds of people. The second they become aware that it’s a tax write off, that illusion vanishes. Know why? Because they will no longer view the deed as altruistic and instead view it as shady.
Again, the difference is the same as in these two scenarios.
I give someone 20 dollars, expecting nothing in return and am doing it just to help them out.
As opposed to “I gave someone 20 dollars but I expect something in return for my actions.”
The former is considered altruism, the latter is considered just being scummy.
Hey make sure you enjoy that pet you paid for while you pretend to yourself that you “Did it for the kids” so you can feel like you’re an altruistic person and not just doing so for your own benefit with the side effect of the pet you paid for went to a charity from the company you just paid so they can write it off on their taxes.
Sorry but I just refuse to view you as charitable. If you want to pretend you’re charitable because you paid directly for a pet in a video game as a known benefit with the side effect of “Oh well the proceeds went to kids!” then that’s on you. Whatever helps you sleep at night but you aren’t altruistic; and by extension, you aren’t charitable. You are selfish.
1 Like
Man, this thread is still going? GD, never change.
1 Like
But the problem is the destination of the donation, which would be worse than supporting not only donating but also:
If you see beyond in the future both the Make-A-Wish and WE , org organizations are making donations like Blizzard if it looks like a common good and financial marketing just for themselves and not for donation is to see if both It is not just a lucrative medium, so everyone is a hoax.
something that would be seen with the future and we would even see a scam news on social networks if that happened, but since there is nothing and everything is normal (for now) you just have to wait for what happens or what results there are about this charitable act .
Unfortunately if you ask me if I have any interest in the li’l llama, it is nice, but every case apart that I am missing half the money I have in my account, I already have my deceiver or Mischief that represents the vile version of my cat favorite of my house, Gary. 
I’m sorry, but how your reading hate from the OP’s Post? 
it’s just a fair concern of the last part of the clause.
I think it goes beyond that. I think they are going out of their way to be outraged and upset.
5 Likes
Minor correction. They are selling a pet. People are buying the pet with the side effect that 3 million dollars worth of the proceeds are going to be donated to a charity by Blizzard. Which will then be written off on their taxes which basically amounts to:
People are buying a pet and conning themselves into thinking they’re good people because the proceeds are going to a charity. Through a company operating as the middleman, who is doing so for two reasons:
-
It serves them good PR because people think they’re doing so altruistically and basically just worship them for “Being such a good and generous company!”
-
They then turn around and write off the entirety of the donation on their taxes and get a large tax break from it.
So really all that’s happening is Blizzard is loaning them 3 million, which will then be paid back to them a couple months down the line with a huge tax write off with the added benefit of having people think that they’re a good company. When not even 48 hours ago people were screaming at them for removing the Brutosaur and presuming it was done as a greedy move to jack up their sale on tokens.
Meanwhile people who bought a pet get to pretend that they totally did so out of generosity, but if that were the case, why did they not just donate directly to the foundation themselves? Instead these “charitable and kind-hearted samaritans” opted to do so through a middleman that is rewarding them with a pet.
Really makes you think. . .
I edited into my post near the top (Post 6), but to add to this:
Just for the record, To Our Knowledge Blizzard has never actually reached $3,000,000 with any Charity Pet, but putting a cap on it is still a sketchy thing to do.
I say to our knowledge because they never released the numbers for Whomper, which was the first charity pet to have a cap on donations. The closest they’ve come to $3,000,000 was Mischief at 2.5 Million.
(Not added to the post)
The fact they never released numbers for Whomper is kinda suspicious though. (I can’t find the numbers anywhere, MMO-Champ, Wowhead, Google, etc. Even Wowpedia doesnt have the numbers, and they have numbers dating all the way back to 2009.)
Wow I was avoiding you like the plague but this is hilarious. You do know what a loan is right? You do understand the difference between a loan and a tax write off? I assume no. This money goes to the charity, nothing is expected to be returned that is a loan. You trying to claim that corporations donating to charities is in any way scummy makes you a fool. I wonder, since you seem to love trolling all these hate threads, do you also harass the millions of other companies that do the same? Or even the average Joe’s out there who claim charitable deductions as well?
Canada and the US are similar, once you hit a certain tax bracket you will pay, hence the encouragement from the IRS and Revenue Canada to make these contributions, it lightens the load and helps those less fortunate. The only people up in arms in my opinion are those who don’t fall into these brackets and can’t comprehend the tax incentives.
Either way you are twisted, you’d much rather them pocket this cash by all accounts rather than help those in need. Or is it just more coal to yet another hate train you have tied yourself to?
1 Like
Horse hockey.
Do you feel good when you perform a charitable action? Does feeling good about doing something charitable influence your decision to do it?
If the answer is yes then your charitable action was at least in part due to receiving the reward of feeling good about it. Genuine altruism may not exist, if you’re using the specific “doing something with no thought of reward” definition…since feeling good about doing it is in itself a reward.
Enlightened self-interest seems like a better way to put it: I feel good when I do something nice for someone else…which encourages me to do nice things for other people.
4 Likes
Effectively, what you are saying is that you read half a sentence and made an assumption, then read the second half and realized that your assumption was inaccurate.
Maybe in the future it would be wise to read everything before reaching a conclusion.
3 Likes
The good thing is that Make a Wish and We both take direct donations so if all the people that are angry about and don’t want to do it through blizzard they can look it up and go donate straight to them or better yet they can see if there’s any local chapters and volunteer some of the time they spent doing nothing and help out a non profit.
Or if neither Make a Wish or WE have any local chapters then look up any other non profit, could be helping out the homeless, rescuing animals, helping out old folks with groceries stuff like that, it might fix the anger issues some of the folk on this forum and the rest of the internet have.
1 Like
Agree to disagree then. Interpretation of what they wrote is subjective anyways.
I’m not upset - i fully expect blizzard to do stuff like this. It’s consistent with their recent actions. And they’re not alone among companies in the industry.
Neither is the OP ; they just asked a bunch of questions.
Ok, sure. But the OPs post is what helped clarify things for me - so I’m glad they made the post and started the discussion. Because that’s what forums are for.
On some sites those 2 parts are in the same sentence.
On other sites the second half is in a different section entirely in “fine print”.
No it’s not subjective at all. What they said is very cut and dry. 100% of donations are going to charity. Blizzard is not making money off this pet. End of story.
You are just wrong and you seem to be unwilling to admit it.
3 Likes
Someone is giving money to a charity. That’s all this is. Stop trying to twist it with your semantics.
Of course, let’s just start throwing insults now. 
Wrong. They are not the same. Going by your holier than thou definition, they aren’t. Someone is simply acknowledging that their money goes to a charity. Period. Yours implies an entirely different mindset and emotional state with this fantastical unicorns and rainbows idea that you seem to give to the word “charity” and “altruistic.”
Literally no one is doing this. They are giving money to a charity.
There are people buying this specifically because the funds are going to the charity who could care less about the pet and are just doing it to support Blizzard’s donations. Don’t presume to know what everyone does.
Who the hell cares why corporations choose to do it? The fact is that these charities are getting money. Period.
No, that’s you projecting some holier than thou attitude.
Say it with me now… it’s a tax write-off for everyone.
I never bought the pet. Go look at my collections. Don’t be condescending.
You know nothing about me. As a dispatcher, I know more about giving of oneself than most. Don’t you dare stick your nose up in the air because you don’t like how corporations have charity events.
Again, you don’t know a damn thing about me. But I do know you’ll judge anyone based off of your own twisted views without even getting to know them and I’m happy to never be friends with anyone like that. I can’t even believe how disgusting this post of yours is.
3 Likes