farm or not for the zoomers, that has no bearing on the population as a whole
that’s not the bulk of players, current guilds are adding additional raid groups and new guilds are cobbling together things
this is a period of active development and gearing up and general play, not stagnation
there’s no rush
If you’re not interested in playing Classic, why are you playing Classic?
You can do all the content that Classic provides in retail without us “Scrubs” slowing you down.
Problem solved!
Mr. 110 Demon Hunter
There is PVP, there just isn’t rewards for it.
Aka
You can participate in PVP for this weird thing called Fun.
Even if you’re on a PVE server there’s still flagged people.
As an aside:
If you like PVP why are you on a PVE server?
I think a lot of people may be concerned that if they are rushing through patch releases then that could lead to releasing something like TBC early as well, which would mean the end of “Classic”.
EQ does this when they run their progression servers and it’s impossible for casual players to keep up with it - it’s just not even worth playing.
That’s like saying there is PVE in the game, just no loot drops.
Never said I did. But I don’t consider World Ganking… PVP. Its why I don’t play on an Abnormal Server.
Maybe you do and relish the imbalance that allows you to act like you’re doing something cool by ganking people using numbers… YMMV.
Either way… people need stuff to do and BG’s fit that bill. So why hold them back?
That’s a really dumb comparison.
It’s expected to get gear from PVE.
PVP is exactly that, PVP.
If you need a reward to PVP, you don’t like PVP, you like gear.
BGs aren’t in until P3.
P2 is just the honor system aka something you won’t make much use of on your carebear server.
Its expected to get honor and gear from PVP.
Everybody likes gear and plays the game to get it because MMORPG’s at their core are a gear-driven game. People don’t play the game just to play the game… unless they simply like to gank people and call that PVP.
Cool… I hear Dire Maul goes in with P2. Don’t be shocked if BG’s and the honor system are gift wrapped into phase 2 for the 15th anniv.
Found the retail kid.
Vanilla WoW had zero rewards for PVP until 1.4(aka about 6 months after release).
aka People participated in PVP for fun.
If gear is your only reason for playing Classic, you’re playing the wrong game.
The itemization is horrible unless you’re a prot Warrior, healer, or a Pure DPS class. There’s a reason that the warrior DPS BiS lists have leather on them, and it ain’t because leather is optimal.
Slippery slope proven fellas.
We already have someone saying “Well they dropped Dire Maul early, give us BGs early!”
LOL. Wrong on both counts.
I don’t give two s***s what Vanilla had(and played it when current). We’re talking Classic and it makes no sense to add Honor without BG’s. None.
Vanilla had a lot of things that hadn’t been invented yet where people participated ‘for fun’.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Ok then… make sure you don’t buy any PVP gear once it goes in, or you’re spewing bs.
Its a gear-progression game. If you don’t agree… start a level 1 and don’t loot anything. See how far you get, sport. Everyone plays to get better gear, or the only thing they are good at is lying to themselves.
It honestly makes no sense to put in the Honor System without the BGs that drive it. This is fine when BGs didn’t exist and PVP was still being invented, but one feeds the other.
I’ll never catch up. That’s fine. You’re the one asking for blizzard to speed up phased releases.
I would argue that it’s the opposite. If you want a game where whiny, impatient people get everything they want handed to them, go play retail. The people who don’t want it rushed are merely wanting status quo (#nochanges).
It’s the go go go zoomers who are demanding that things be sped up because they lack patience and discipline and have the attention spans of gnats.
Why is the time between the release of the raids the most important status quo to you? Why is the days or months between content being identical to the Vanilla release so important?
I’d argue the current progression of players is a more important criteria when deciding content releases, and the current progression of players now is far beyond what it was when BWL released in Vanilla.
That sounds like retail talk, retail has time gating.
Retail --> that way.
You insinuated that those wanting status quo were like retail babies. I think, no, it’s the other way around. Impatient people demanding that content be fastracked remind me of those wanting LFD/LDR and ports to instances back in the day so they could put groups together fast and blow through all the content and get their purples quicker. The common thread is impatience.
It is for some players. Nobody but Blizzard knows how many.
And so did vanilla and every other WoW iteration.
I don’t mind them releasing PvP soon but the rest should wait in my opinion.
TBC hasn’t been announced lmfao
What does it matter. I have never understood the phase thing because either now or latter it will all be released and that is it. So just release it all now, gear and power are irrelevant, because the game has already been done.
Obviously … but they did say they are considering it and a lot of people seem to want it. So it’s probably going to eventually happen. I was just saying that getting to that point is probably a concern for people who feel like patches are coming out quickly.
The phases will come out in accordance with the schedule, they aren’t going to rush anything. You could argue that dire maul was “rushed” but with the current 1.12 itemization… dire maul being out is completely irrelevant outside of a few pieces of BiS (mostly for healers).
As for TBC yeah I’m sure they will release it eventually but at the same time I don’t think it will be until we’ll after phase 6. At the same time… who cares… you can play classic with less than 400 players on a server.