Dont release bgs, ill still sub

In every situations you will loose your competition. People will not tolerate to get ganked and griefed over and over. These players will :

  • Reroll
  • Transfer
  • Unsub

With Blizzard and the PVP community not willing to change anything about the rules of PVP (Which is okay in itself), the outcome will always be the same.

Or, have Blizzard figure out some way to more properly balance the servers?

Most pvpers (ie, not gankers) would love more balanced servers.

And thus the era of welfare epics is born. Killed ultima online, killed og wow. I sure wish it meant anything to anyone anymore to actually have to work for something. or to get stronger if youā€™re being griefed.

I agree on that but most players will fall on the ganking when the chance present itself.

Picks undead priest to have to not try at all. Picks horde because screw having to try. Then bashes people for ā€œcryingā€ because they getting camped by raids of horde as a heavily underpopulated faction player.

Thesmite, the coward.

I canā€™t even imagine how bad the average horde player is on horde dominated servers. (or alliance on a hugely alliance based server so like 1 right?). Like even on a 50/50ish server itā€™s crazy how easy it is to wipe more players just being a little coordinated. Imagine being coordinated and meeting these over populated players with equal to slightly lower numbers and how bad they would lose not being used to having to actually pvp.

Aka thesmite imagine how bad Thesmite must be at pvp lol.

Iā€™ve 1v1ā€™d bad players that are higher level than me in better gear and Iā€™m not especially good. I specced for as much resistance reduction as I can and thatā€™s all you can do. Yeah you get resists, but a priest saying it is somewhat preposterous. You have a flat 10% reduction to your fear in your talents no matter what spec you play. Nobody is stacking shadow resistance now either.

10% is MASSIVE. If you donā€™t understand the value of that or that you need to adjust your talents based on the fact that you play on a PVP server and that people are geared better and leveled higher than you then thatā€™s on you and you should probably play on a PVE server where you can take every regen talent there is and ignore PVP entirely.

At the very least, Shadow affinity will let you fear them and put your defensives up or run away.

Thanks for the trolls. If you have any constructive idea, iā€™m sure the community would like to hear you.

For you maybe, ā€œwelfare epicsā€ as people like to call them started in TBC, wow had its most subscribers ever AFTER that

Actually i picked undead priest because i like the casting animations, thanks though. everyone knows troll is clearly superior. Also, my achievements to date are linked above. thanks for your time.

I understand that. Iā€™m trying to point out that also a big part of the playerbase are extremely happy with their choices! PVP, especially on the realms with massive disparity (on the lesser populated side) is AMAZING!!!

Personally, I cannot understand how someone can feel comfortable with themselves, posting something on the forums like, ā€œPlease let me transfer to PVE.ā€ when they made the choice themselves, and they can simply reroll.

Yes, they knowingly spent an amount of time that they chose to spend on a character on a PVP server, knowing they could not transfer to PVE servers. That hasnā€™t changed.

If it does, then great. Iā€™m not trying to stop a change from happening; though I am certainly not an advocate for the people who made a mistake and now want someone else to solve it for them. It is not something I admire in others.

I suspect that what will be good for Classic is if the people complaining about PVP happening on PVP servers leave.

The term in which i used it was a placeholder. In tbc you still had to farm blues to get rep to get gear to do raids etc. you worked your way up. not ding 120 boom ah ilvl boom raidfinder in 2 hours

Resist Calculations by Level:

Vs. +0 level (same level) 4% 4%
Vs. +1 level 5% 5%
Vs. +2 level 6% 6%
Vs. +3 level 17% 13%
Vs. +4 level 28% 20%
Each additional level +11% +7%

So, a level 47 vs a level 60 = 63% chance to resist spellcast. Being that my alt is a warlock, not a priest (this priest is 60ā€¦ why would i level another?), i can put 5 points into suppression for for -10% resist to affliction spells only.

This leaves me with a 53% chance for my dots, deathcoils, and fears to be resisted, and 63% chance for my destruction spells to be resisted. Please explain to me how you feel one should ā€œoutplayā€ this, while being wailed on by level 60s. Iā€™ll wait.

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It works when enough of those who actually want PVP, reroll on the lower populated sides.

Level 47 you just die.

Thatā€™s too many levels. Also if you are talking T1, they have resists on their gear. So itā€™s actually way worse than that.

What zone is this though?

ā€¦ did you read the post you originally replied to at all?

Yet you are against transfers. That does not make any sense since in your reality. Transfers or Rerolls will result in the same outcome.

You are only trying to have a ā€œI told you soā€ attitude.

Not everyone was able to make a clear choice when going to a PVP server. They either had:

  • Old guild rolling PVP
  • Friends rolling PVP
  • Reddit saying PVP is the only way
  • Streamers rolling PVP
  • The fact that no one could predict the outcome of the Honor systems (Massive griefing).

Yes ganking was always part of Vanilla but it was on a different proportion considering the servers size.

Woah woah woah there guys, this just in. alliance pvping on a horde heavy server?

imgur dot com/a/9msNfHd check it out. real men.

And give up all the time on the character they have now?

Thereā€™s better solutions

Yes.

That we can implement now? Or that require people doing nothing, but complain, and whine, and hope someone else solves their problems?

I may be phrasing that in a way that you donā€™t like, but thatā€™s how I view it. The complaints sound like complaints to me. The inaction and the refusal to take responsibility for oneā€™s own decisions is not something that makes me want to engage in a constructive way with people who are actually the problem.

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I collect edible wild plants. Botany is my number one hobby. Iā€™ve eaten many cacti and I do prefer pancakes.

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