Don't play these classes. Period

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Druid

If you’re not fully committed to wearing cloth dresses and spamming buffs and heals. You will never be buffed in any way to make you a viable Raid DPS or have your talent rows switched around to be more optimal build wise to fill said Raid DPS role.

Pick Rogue or Hunter. It’s that simple. Or don’t play.

#NoChanges

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It is a truly terrible thing being spoonfed all that ret/feral/balance PvP loot because there’s close to no competition for it.

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Well, if you want to be a raid DPS, don’t be a hunter. Be a mage, warrior, or rogue. There was always room for more than 3 of each of those classes. Want to get Nightfall and spam Wing Clip? Be a hunter.

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Another person who thinks the entire game revolves around raiding in a high-end guild.

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Unless you are fully committed to be a damage dealer, don’t roll Mage, Warlock, Rogue or Hunter. If you roll any of these expecting to become the guild’s main tank or save your friends with amazing healing powers and ressurrection, think again.

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Don’t tell me what to do! You ain’t my real mom!

You don’t pay my sub!

I’m going to roll druid in Vanilla now and go balance and wiggle my feathery butt all over the place in defiance.

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I was a Druid in Vanilla; leveled as Feral and raided as Resto. I wore a cloth piece now and then for Spirit but it’s not like cloth is somehow gimping my performance; there’s no bonus for wearing all one type of gear in Classic. But, yeah, playing a class labeled as HYBRID implies that you are willing to switch roles (not talents) to suit the raid composition on a given night; that’s your job and why you rolled hybrid in the first place.

Also, um, a Hunter was not a priority DPS class they were a utility class.

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My Rogue healing dreams have been dashed.

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Perhaps OP should have said don’t roll a druid or a Pal unless you research your role in Classic with regards to raiding.

In PVP Druid did very well when geared and played well, and Pal in Raiding is invaluable.

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Actually druids are the only exception to high raid viability outside of healing. Bear tanks are no joke.

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I raided as a hunter thru MC , BWL and most of AQ 40. Yes , as a hunter and all things equal you shouldnt be top DPS but thru BWL you certainly can be a top 5 in raid DPS.

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I believe that there needs to changes in the game to balance loot drops for all specs. I don’t want to see spec changes just fix loot drops.

Like not having a shaman tier drop for an alliance raid or visa versa, there are some changes that would be nice.

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Ah, the noble hunter. I played one in vanilla through naxx 40. We were never top of the meters, especially on horde side (No judgement of wisdom). Since there was no aspect of the viper yet, we were perennially oom. Our low mana pool meant that 95% of our damage output on a fight was going to be autoshot. But… we did have some things to recommend us.

  • Tranq shot. Several fights were pretty much impossible without it.
  • Emergency CC
  • Kiting/pet pulling. (I remember spending like 20 minutes running in circles in razorgore’s room every tuesday for months. To this day, I’ve never seen the fight from any other perspective)
  • Ranged damage (We weren’t cleaved, and were able to out range pretty much any aoe that it was possible to outrange)
  • No threat cap. A hunter was never going to pull agro, no matter how hard he pushed.
  • Potential wipe recovery. (Until mid-BWL era if you flopped in a raid, you were out of combat until you attacked, or got hit by an aoe. That made many many hunters engineers for the jumper cables. Even after the nerf, the ability to stand up and res a healer if there wasn’t a soulstone or reincarnation available could save 15+ minutes of runback.

However, a lot of hunter utility was self created. Things like pet pulling, and jump shot kiting, and chain retrapping w/ FD had a definite macguyver feel to them. Getting the most out of a hunter was difficult, and the sheer numbers of them in vanilla meant that hunters in general had a very bad rep that people had to overcome. Unfortunately, the very fact that hunters generally sucked, but a hunter who tried very hard could be an absolute nightmare to deal with in PVP led to a ton of hunter nerfs in the name of making the playing field more level among players of different skill/dedication. Pet normalization, so you don’t have to work for a good pet. Weapon speed normalization, so weapon choice can come down to “what has higher dps?” Combat trapping (w/ 2 second arm time nerf), so hunters who couldn’t manage to drop a trap with FD would be able to, etc.

High numbers of rogues and warriors are going to be a gd nightmare for 5 man content, since no rogues ever have imp sap, and I’ve never met a dps warrior who could play competently outside of a PVP setting. In vanilla they always seemed to think that “accidentally” cleaving sheep was funny and that pulling agro was proof of how good they were, rather than the opposite.

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So there are only two optimal classes for raid dps?

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Oh I plan to “dress” for success as a holy paladin, don’t worry. Going to be a tailor and everything.

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same with my paladin!

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Why would a hunter be giving amazing healing powers or resurrection?

And why would you roll a hunter, expecting to be?

And your opinion on hunter as a non damage dealer, is invalid.

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Strange, I thought that someone who clearly really wants to be a raid dps would be encouraging people to role the tanks and healers necessary to get him there. :sunglasses:

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As a paladin I plan on majoring in healing/buffing/debuffing and minoring in OT/dps for raids. But for everything else like dungeons, WPVE, and PVP, I will be all over the place on my actions. I will be using all my skills where they are most needed for the situation. I’m not going to ignore half my skills in an attempt to be highest dps or something. And I’m going to go 30/21/0 and never respec.

I find it funny and sad at the same time when I see people not using their complete toolkit while playing. Every class has a CC/utility of some sort. If they use it or not is up to them. But the better you are at using all your skills, the more value you have over someone who tunnel visions dps.

And luckily druids and paladins have the most utility to handle anything they run into. I’d put shamans in there, but not too familiar with them in vanilla.

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