borderline unkillable?
So far, most if not all of the resistance based fights have not actually required resistance gear for the raid. This would’ve actually required it.
Did you do or watch any of the PTR fights? The damage was extreme, to the point where WITH a buff to resistance, healing, and health healers were still needing to chain-chug flasks to keep up with the damage and it was a several minute long fight even with a damage bonus. With the whole raid in resist gear? That’s not sustainable.
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It would be sustainable after farming out full epic FrR sets for the raid, which would significantly reduce the HPS required as well as the fight length. It just would not have been killable for most guilds on week 1, boo hoo.
Yes, I watched my guildmates complete the fight in a handful of attempts. Frankly, I think the fight is going to be a joke. We have raid teams in our guild that don’t even use nature resistance gear anymore in aq40 for princess huhuran and viscidus.
This is literally not true. We only found out about it in Classic because we dug up a 2011 Reddit post from an OG Vanilla player who talked about his guild using it to cheese threat mechanics in AQ40 back in the day.
Like I said, I’d love mythic Naxxramas but at that point you should retune the whole instance not just Sapphiron.
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I’d love for them to retune the whole instance, but one boss is better than nothing.
You know CTHUN was released in a mathematically impossible state for most of vanilla. Why does Sappherion get special treatment? He should’ve been fixed to match the original design intent.
The only time this version of Sapphiron has ever existed was the PTR last week.
I hope they fix the bug where bosses go afk and don’t cast their abilities for very long periods that’s affecting some live bosses and was affecting Kel’Thuzad on the PTR.
But this is the way the fight was tuned in vanilla.
HAd it actually been ticking once a second it’s entirely possible the damage would have been reduced.
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Personally, I don’t think cthun was ever mathematically impossible. I imagine most of the problems of players back then was that he was very glitchy. With how easy he is now, it would’ve been really fun to see him actually unnerfed.
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“Fun” like random unstoppable wipes when a giant tentacle spawns on the person that gets sent into the stomach and unstoppably one shots everyone that goes down for the rest of the encounter, or unstoppably eye beams the raid from the stomach.
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You mean the giant tentacle being in the stomach? Clearly that shouldn’t have been happening. I mean numerically unnerfed, not give him back his bugs.
That was one of the bugs of the original C’thun yes.
Others include tentacles spawning outside of LOS and unstoppably mind flaying people for the rest of the encounter.
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do you happen to know if cthun received a health nerf or anything like that?
They fixed the bugs and slowed down the rate of tentacle spawns, no health nerf IIRC.
After the fix he died immediately to a ton of guilds.
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Well, in that case the tentacle spawn rate was a good dps check then I would assume, which most guilds back then could not meet. The glitches were likely the biggest issue with cthun. Anyhow, this thread is supposed to be about sapphiron, so Im not gonna continue this.
Thanks, we really appreciate the detailed information!
While we’ve got you guys, has there been any investigation into Patchwerk’s Hateful strike timing and batching?
Thread: Patchwerk is casting hateful strike every 1.6 instead of 1.2 seconds
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I was having a blast reading this post up until he said they’re changing it to every 2 seconds. 
What a let down. What a huge let down.
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Did you really think they were going to release a version of the boss that does literally 100% more damage than the boss everyone did in 2006?
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