I was able to do this raid 20 years ago, so there must be something new I need? Do I need lvl 80? I am close but not there yet and that is all I can figure is missing but maybe I missed something in the article?
well this âraidâ didnt exist 20 years ago bro. it was a 5 man dungeon. this is a retuned version thats special and made into a raid. and yes i think you need to be level 80.
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lol yes, I just meant its a raid now and nothing stopped me from doing it all those years ago. I am off banging out the last 2 levels
Actually it was treated as a raid for a while.
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I have no clue what the group requirements are but they are probably looking for heroic or better geared players to help carry their groups. PUGS that is.
edit: aka if you are not 620+ good luck even in normal.
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Yes, you could enter BRD ina raid back in the day in vanilla before blizzard put hard caps on dungeons making them 5 or 10 man, but it was always tuned for 5 players. that doesnt make OG brd a raid anymore than it made LBRS or scholomance a raid.
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10 man LBRS and 10 man scholo was the way to go. Unless you were there for quests or doing stealth runs in LBRS.
edit: Same with Stratholme.
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but again, that didnt make them raids, they were always tuned for 5 players.
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I canât do because I havenât bought the expansion yet.
For Normal and Heroic difficulties yes, but not for Looking For Raid difficulty.
You can do the Looking For Raid version without buying The War Within.
Eh some quests could be done with more than 5 players. I always considered LBRS, UBRS, Stratholme, Sholomance, and sometimes BRD raid content.
ok but your opinion doesnt change the fact that they were never labeled or designed as raids by blizzard. they have never been referred to as raids. i dunno why you are arguing basic reality.
The point is that it was able to be run with ten people. Put ten people into a group, what do you have? A raid group.
Just because itâs not labeled as a raid, doesnât negate the fact that it could be run as a raid group.
This is just a semantics issue.
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a semantics issue you are incorrect about. those dungeons were never raids. just because you could enter them in a raid didnt make them raids. stop being so anti-semantic
Nope. Not incorrect.
You could go in as a raid group. It was not labeled a âraid,â though.
Youâre arguing just to argue. Have fun with that.
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and my whole point is those were not raids. which is TRUE.
And my whole point: youâre arguing semantics. You literally agreed with what I said⌠and still arguing. 
Iâll leave you to it.
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you are wrong, i am correct, you are leaving because you know i am correct, ergo i have won the argument, thanks, come again.
This guy is correct. They were not raids, they were dungeons that allowed 10 people to go into them. Back in the day, no one did that because you could not quest and it gimped your XP, and you didnât need 10 people. They took advantage of it in SoD and made several of those dungeons raids during various phases of SoD.
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The heck we did not need 10 people, do you remember how difficult everything used to be when a vast majority were new to mmoâs?
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