I can feel the seething levels of cope radiating from you.
Also you got ratio’d on like the first reply.
Lromnabular, cause all you have done is take an L.
Wants to play Wrath Classic, calls this Wrath Retail - so stop playing then. Nah, you’d rather just dictate to others how everyone else should be thinking, so long as they agree with you.
Your whole argument falls apart right here because that isn’t what happened. That’s what your strawman fallacy brain thinks happened but that isn’t what happened. It has nothing to do with what other players can or can’t do. I want Wrath to succeed and what I am suggesting is a far better path forward to making it fun for everyone in the long run rather then getting their quick fix.
idgi u have ppl making really low effort high word count troll posts and spending the next week of their life meticulously responding to anyone who responds
idk man it feels like uve kinda lost here
He lost at the first post.
Wonder how long after JJ has finished this post will continue.
Im just waiting for JJ to be gone and then come back, can’t wait to see how unhinged he becomes.
This post has been up for several months, I only respond a few times a week, and I won pretty hard based on the like counts tbh. Feels pretty good
Depends on how much trolls want to argue with me
Or feed you 
Joyous Journeys Needs to Go on forever
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I won’t be surprised if that happens but no… no it doesn’t. We don’t need it at all. We need to level at the pace the original Wrath was at.
It’s not an argument, it’s a blatant fact for the entire forum to see. Anyone with basic comprehension can see what you’re doing, yet you deny it because you’re a sad little boy.
If you want Wrath to succeed you would of agreed with others long ago, instead of being stuck in a RPG single-player mindset like a child, and not be so conceded. But you’ve shown your true colors, and I pray for anyone who meets you in real life due to the toxicity, “ME”, mindset you live in.
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Being against joyous journeys is being against fun. Forcing people to play a certain way is also against fun.
“If you want Wrath to succeed you should just agree with everyone because disagreeing is like… bad. No opposing thoughts allowed!” Amazing.
Being for Joyous Journeys is being against leveling. And being against leveling is being against fun.
I am not, nor do I want to force anyone to do anything. You and everyone who supports JJ are helping destroy Classic. I am on the side of everyone who actually enjoys classic and is here for the long run.
I played Wrath back then, I lvled every single class to 80 and geared it up to some degree, I went sweaty hard back then, I farmed more than I needed to, I PvP’d even though I sucked. At the time I didn’t mind leveling so much because it was a different time and a different experience, now I love JJ, unfortunately because of how many alts I lvled in this damn game not even a 50% boost made me care to actually use it, but I’m sure glad it was still there.
JJ doesn’t affect anyone negatively, if you don’t want to use it, don’t use it, at this point you’re just arguing for no reason whatsoever and if your reasoning is simply to start a discussion on these forums, I think you did a fantastic job, The only bad thing I can say I wish blizzard added was a Random dungeon finder for levels 1-60, but I’m sure if they did that, people would complain about it too, It’s great your passionate about this, but get over it, Classic #nochanges ended a long time ago.
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It affects literally everyone negatively. It is completely antithetical to Classic. Leveling faster =! an automatic good. However, changing Wrath, which was a perfect game, is automatically bad, especially when it’s the current iteration of Blizzard making the changes.
No. No one should have the option to use it at all. It does nothing but encourages the “Give me more things faster and with less effort” mentality and is bad for the game in the long run. When people keep constantly trying to create some sort of moral high ground in an argument about videogame gameplay mechanics., that pretty much means they have zero logical merit and therefore have to result to appeal to emotion/appeal to authority.
Wrath was a perfect game? 
You should read up on RAF, which existed during Wrath.
If you are fighting about things changing and things being added to the game, Why aren’t you fighting about other things too? Do you know how many changes wrath went through? How many patches we went through to get to that sweet spot? I really do see where you’re coming from but things aren’t like they were in 2009, while It’s true that a lot of servers are a lot bigger this time around unlike back then, people wanted incentives to level more quickly and to be quite honest with you, 50% isn’t even that big, you’re still required to level and go through a lot of the story through questing.
We don’t even have RDF, so people are out in the world regardless, JJ just made things ‘slightly’ faster. I’m not here to attack you, I am genuinely curious just how It’s destroying anything other than peoples view of a game that was over a decade ago, things change, You’re playing a game run by a company that can’t stick to their guns half of the time.
I do. You have no idea how many changes I absolutely despise about Classic. But this was the biggest, most recent, and most poorly thought out change. So I focused on that. I’ve already tried to make a thread about all the many problems with Classic and it got nowhere. I decided that focusing on a more obvious and recent problem would be a better approach. And it’s also an approach I feel could make more of an impact. Letting Blizzard know, during a time that they’re experimenting with this JJ buff, that there are many people who are against it.
It isn’t. And only having it for a few months makes it seem like small potatoes… the problem is that every time Blizzard pushes through one of these poorly thought out, retail-like changes, and the forums praise them for it, they feel incentivized to make more changes. Eventually there will be a change that even YOU will find extremely distasteful, abominable, even. And maybe that will be the time that you decide to leave Classic for good.
But here’s another possibility. Imagine a future where people stopped letting Blizzard keep sliding in new, incrementally bigger and bigger changes, without even a whisper of dissent or disagreement, and a future where Blizzard was discouraged, early on, from making too many changes to the game, because they realized “Hey! Sometimes when we make changes… people get mad. So maybe we should be more careful about what changes we make”
That right there is my biggest problem. I REFUSE to not do everything in my power (as limited as it is) to allow Blizzard the illusion that their misguided attempts at “fixing” Wrath of the Lich King, are without detractors. As long as someone opposes their changes, maybe… just maybe, they won’t bring in that change, down the road, that becomes the last straw that broke Classic.
Wrath was a time when I spent -hours- online, probably to an unhealthy degree with how much time I spent in it but 90% of it were good memories, even with how much debate went on with RDF, for me it was a weird change to give us the latest patch but without something that was a feature in wrath, as RDF make it a lot more tolerable to gear up and level alts that I never even considered an EXP buff aside from heirlooms.
I think if you’re passionate about something, You should definitely say something, If you don’t agree with something, fight for the change you want even if the change is slim, because I get that mentality, just because a company makes a decision, doesn’t mean everyone is going to like it and you shouldn’t just lay down or go with the flow.
Back then, a long time ago when I had hair, I loved the game so much that I didn’t just play it to play with friends, I genuinely enjoyed my time on wow that I could play solo, start my own groups, not really talk to people that much, but when I did it was double enjoyment, while I completely respect your want to fight for change or rather fight for less negative changes, not everyone is going to agree, I now play this game with friends, and there is very little blizzard can change to make me dislike wow more, I am just happy I can relive some experiences with friends and that’s where I’m at.
While the Joyous Journey didn’t affect me personally, I know where you’re coming from and I respect it.
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