Don't Bring Joyous Journeys Back

[Belshaman-grobbulus]

which main? This one?

[Prettypally-grobbulus]

Maybe this one?

[Beltirah-grobbulus]

or maybe this one?

[Beltirabutdk-grobbulus]

must be this one, guess blizzard doesn’t update avatars unless you log out and back in

let me know if you need help with 10m 3d sarth

[Canulare-benediction]

I think is a good idea

[Vizantius-benediction]

how dare other people get to have fun when and get an XP boost for leveling!!! how dare you betray the spirit of classic blizz!!! what is the meaning of this XP boost to leveling!!! why won’t you think of the children blizz!!!

[Argentier-faerlina]

yeah i think you are right

[Charax-emerald-dream (Charax)]

@Belshaman-grobbulus

I agree that some changes have more impact than others. Changes that fundamentally alter the way the game works, like Heroic+, mercenary mode, loot table changes, ilvl updates. Those are all things that have a massive impact on overall gameplay.

A small buff to exp for characters that are leveling that is also optional?

It’d be very hard to formulate a coherent argument where one is accepting of the former but the latter is considered going too.

Right, and it’s fair to frame it that way.

I could argue why some of those changes make sense and would result in a better gameplay experience for us but in the context of the JJ change, I actually support it so I will leave it at that.

Up to the OP if he wants to justify those changes and explain why it’s different for JJ.

Cheers.

[Littlerascal-area-52]

@Miregrim-bloodsail-buccaneers

You want JJ so you can not play the game and rush to end game

This has to be the most idiotic comment I have seen.

One, who cares what another player does. In WoW what another player does to get to level cap has ZERO impact on any other player. So this whole mentality is just you wanting to stick your nose into places that it does not belong.

Second, WTF do you mean, “not play the game”. Hey everyone, not sure you knew this but when you hit 80 you might as well uninstall Classic, because there is no more game to play, according to this logic.

Seriously, you are part of what is making WoW die. This is more toxicity for no other reason than you just cannot keep your nose out of other peoples business and want to impose your morals and play style on others when it is not needed or wanted.

JJ, RDF, Boosts, RAF… all of these are systems that are 100% optional, impact no one but the player using them, and take away or change nothing about the game experience for anyone else. Anyone who tries to claim otherwise is just insane.

[Aenu-sisters-of-elune]

“it’s not an opinion” -this guy as he’s giving his opinion

[Thromnabular-grobbulus]

@Littlerascal-area-52

An exp buff is an exp buff.

“A buff that is available to everyone globally and automatically is the same thing as an xp buff that required you to actually find someone who isn’t subscribed to WoW and have them start playing WoW with you and additionally only worked when they were within close proximity to each other” How about we not play silly games and pretend that things that are clearly not even similar the same thing.

That’d be just as ridiculous as saying “Well we had heirlooms that gave us a 50% xp bonus (or whatever it is) so its perfectly reasonable for Blizzard to give us heirlooms that have a 500% xp bonus. An xp bonus is an xp bonus!” You can pretend that apples to oranges comparisons are a valid logical thing to do, however actually intelligent people won’t buy it.

@Miregrim-bloodsail-buccaneers

You want JJ so you can not play the game and rush to end game.

This is exactly what it is no matter how you slice it. People have created this mentality that leveling is a chore and an obstacle to be gotten over as quickly as possible and that they want to just “get to max lvl already” That isn’t what the game is for and if players can’t deal with leveling in an RPG then maybe they should stop playing RPGs or stop making alts and demanding that they all be max lvl.

@Solíne-moon-guard

“waaah it makes others have more fun than me because they aren’t forced to play the way I was x years ago therefore it’s bad” mentality is what’s killing both retail and classic.

“WAAAAAHHH!! How DARE you suggest I actually have to PLAY THE GAME without my play time being reduced artificially by a buff that never existed in the original game! How DARE you suggest that classic shouldn’t keep being made closer and closer to retail! You’re evil! Now I’m gonna report you for trolling! Ha!”

People like you are exactly the reason retail is failing. Because reducing how much time and effort it takes to get rewards is constantly being advocated and Blizzard constantly keeps losing. People like you just want to be given what you want and get it done with zero time investment. Your casual “let me get everything faster” mentality is completely antithetical to videogames in general. Game designers are supposed to make it DIFFICULT for you to beat the game, not constantly make it easier and faster.

[Littlerascal-area-52]

@Thromnabular-grobbulus

to actually find someone who isn’t subscribed to WoW and have them start playing WoW with you

Yeah more proof you never played original Wrath.

[Thromnabular-grobbulus]

@Littlerascal-area-52

Yeah more proof you never played original Wrath.

Zero arguments detected. I know what you think you’re saying and how you’re gonna try to say “oh it was SO easy for EVERYONE to get RAF” no it wasn’t. You never played wrath. I did. I played since BC. Either make a coherent argument or move on

[Crushmode-stormrage]

Take a deep breath.

Relax.

It’ll all be ok.

[Thromnabular-grobbulus]

It sure will be when hundreds of players see my post and start making their own posts saying the same thing and Blizzard realizes they can’t just keep JJ on perpetually. Or at the very least reduces it to 1-70 only

[Charax-emerald-dream (Charax)]

I thought RAF was actually intended for someone to start up a new account, collect the rewards and power level your alts.

No one really used it to recruit an actual friend.

[Littlerascal-area-52]

OMG dude. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

First The only requirement for RAF was two accounts to be linked. There was no rules about who the 2 accounts were owned by. Second it was available to everyone. All it took was a trip to the store to get a WoW battlechest for $9.99 and to go to the RAF page and setup up the new copy.

Bingo, done, you now had 300% EXP.

Anyone who actually played Wrath knew and did this.

[Ronstantine-faerlina]

Xp boosts during the holidays is fairly standard in older mmorpgs.

Also half your questions are answered in the announcement…I hate people like you.

[Thromnabular-grobbulus]

@Charax-emerald-dream

No one really used it to recruit an actual friend.

@Littlerascal-area-52

First The only requirement for RAF was two accounts to be linked. There was no rules about who the 2 accounts were owned by.

It’s blatantly obvious to everyone that you could take advantage of the system by making multiple accounts. But just because YOU did something doesn’t mean most of us, who were kids back when Wrath existed, had the money to make two accounts. And like I said THE XP BUFF ONLY WORKED IF YOU WERE PROXIMITY TO THE OTHER ACCOUNT’S CHARACTERS. Which, for a kid with no money, would mean having to have two computers, because multiboxxing was far beyond the abilities of most teenagers back then.

@Ronstantine-faerlina

I hate people like you.

I hate people like you too. Just because Blizzard says something is only going to last for x amount of time doesn’t mean they’re not gonna change their mind and just leave it on permanently because they think itll make them more money. And regardless… it doesn’t matter. It wasn’t in the original game so it doesn’t belong in Classic. Idc what is standard in older mmorpgs. It’s classic WoW Wrath of the Lich King. It’s not retail, its not guild wars or runesecape.

[Ronstantine-faerlina]

You’re being kinda naive here…

Seriously…