I guess that’s one way to look at it.
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I like the new system. Farm honor like everyone else and gear up at a similar pace depending on life/no life. Throw a few dungeons in why not they are short and a bit of fun. Then when seasona released you verse people who did the same. Now you csn start gettinf conquest gear each week along side honor gear.
I personally like it because i dont want to be burning through the content and be fully geared too quickly, gettinf upgrades is nice.
I guess we’ll agree to disagree. I don’t think it’s good design that I would have to spend 6.5 days’ game time farming gear that is effectively on par with LFR gear.
I’ll be pve’ing, because I can get fully geared in a fraction of the time, which is really what the whole problem is. That, and many of the pvp item pieces having bad stats
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Honor gear is never meant to be great, hence why it is farmable. Conquest is capped out every week so that people cant hyper outgear others. Even lfr gear you cant really farm, you get at best 3 pieces of gear a week if you’re lucky? and lfr comes out like 4-5 weeks after expac launches. If you REALLY want that full 190 gear, you can totally grind bgs to oblivion and be the most geared person by the time lfr starts.
That being said… i do think they should increase the item level or rank1 honor gear and reduce the number of upgrades needed… maybe max rank 3 or 4 at 190 ilvl
The fact that you said you’re going to do pve instead to do pvp reminded me of Stoopzz video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BJvAmENY3s&ab_channel=Stoopzz_TV
TLDR… why do we NEED to do PVE to do well in PVP?
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Tiqqle’s vid on the topic is good too:
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Jeezis give us a break blizz!
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Those values seem a bit insane, especially when you consider honor gear blue set could be done in 2-3 days over the weekend in Ashran during WoD. Faster if you won frequently.
The end ilvl of honor gear needs to get pushed to normal raid level gear and conquest gear needs to be higher then Heroic lvl (preferably at Mythic ilvl but I’ll take 3 ilvl lower as a compromise). To be fair since it doesn’t look like we are getting stat choices for gear, conquest gear should be higher then mythic raid gear, and on par with the last 2 boss bonus.
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I don’t know why anyone thought they were going to hit the right stride on launch. It’s going to take them at least until 9.3 to get it right. Of which they will have to re-iterate again or decide to go back on putting pvp gear in the game for a second time, cause they saw people not using the system as they intended.
Conquest is looking even worse!
This video by Stoopzz:
TLDR: we will be doing PVE for our PVP gear, yet again
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Ugh. The grind for PVE is so bad, I can never find to to PVP once I start.
Once again they scru the pooch
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The most cringe thing about this is even if you did put the time in to get the 190 iLvL. Most classes in PvP dont need 90% of the stat variations that are available throught the vendor. I am also assuming conquest gear is the same way.
So, that being said even if they shorten the time to achieve this rank 6 PvP gear… PvE gear will still be superior due to combination of stats that are offered.
Sad day 
Probably for people who enjoy both PVP and PVE content, they can choose how they gear each area up.
WOAH, WOAH, WOAH!
6 Pieces of gear with Haste/Vers for Leather!
I have died and went to heaven! They are LISTENING Bois.
Thats bad, dont get me wrong, but its better then the 2 pieces total we have in BFA. If they have 2 different rings with the Haste Versa, so we can get 2 thats 7 pieces. I will be happier. Thats not as bad as BFA. He is covering weps, if they too are haste versa 1hs, 9 pieces of 15 being haste vers, + Glad trinket, gives me 1 trinket and 5 slots to fill in PVE, more than half my set will be PVP. Thats a start.
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Im not asking to have my character 100% geared from only PvP- im asking to be optimal. And with the current system in beta that is absolutely impossible.
People should have to raid for cool trinkets and cool weapons. I 100% agree with that. But to have 10% of the gear available on conquest and BG gear give the stat variation that people are actually looking for in PvP is absurd.
Unless you play a warlock haha, or a DK 
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I am happy to get 1/3 of my gear from PvE if I want to min max, but please let me get at least 2/3 of my BIS gear from the content I want to do without throwing away all my free time. I love this game and don’t want it to conflict with other priorities in my life,
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Well I do play Warlock :P. and DH.
Going to have to verge off that Video, Affliction doesnt need THAT much haste, and Vers? Affliction? Not as important as he is making it. The Haste/Vers pieces on Cloak and Jewelry probably enough, grab the haste mastery peices, and then PVE for more Vers. Its acceptable.
Destro is screwed, but it needs to be, Destro is boring stale stupid gameplay.
Just my opinion and the way I play Aff though, if others prefer to stack Vers ya its bad for them. He did mention that as well.
The point is, you have one stat combo per slot.
One.
PvP gear needs more to be worthy of the insane amount of time it will take to get.
And I want some pvp stat, rather than just more combos. Or even better, gear that is boosted in PvP instances and warmode (like when pvp talents are active)
Oh no I agree with you, I been fighting the great fight myself.
I am just saying that video, made ME personally with the Classes I play, a little less worried. I wanted to play Mage some in SL, and also leveled a Unholy, and was wanting to see if Spriest was fun with the changes, however this system will pigeon hole me back into DH/Aff, which is sad.
I would prefer to see those changes as well. I am just trying to make the best of a bad situation, and tell myself it wont be as bad as BFA, so I dont flat out uninstall.
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