Taking a step back – there’s a bunch of the player base in the battlegrounds that would prefer not to be. That’s why they AFK or try to min-max the honor and marks. They are required to be there because they (1) want gear to level or (2) want to excel in competitive play like arena.
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It’s possible but players generally flow along the line of least resistance. They see nothing all that much to be gained from pvp’ing in Av when doing a 5-10 min base race is seemingly preferable. Hence why we have what we have.
Yes, but it’s ALWAYS been the case that people rush to the boss and kill it before the enemy team.
Prior to the TBC changes, that was the only way to win. The reinforcements simply guarantee that turtles don’t last forever.
No, it has never been something that could lead to a ban, unless you extensively disrupt the gameplay of others, which is not the case.
It is a huge fanfic that players get banned for being afk in the battlegrounds. Blizzard received so many tickets complaining about players that they created a report tool in game so you can report players for being AFK.
They don’t get banned, don’t even get kicked out instantly out of the bg, they get a 3 min debuff that lead them to stop getting honor, and if they don’t engage in combat shortly they will be kicked out of the bg.
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I’m not arguing that this was never the case, but there are now disicentives to actually doing mass pvp. Previous to the patch nothing was lost with forcing or accepting a turtle and the subsequent honour gains. But now you can lose the game from doing so, and because of that there is an incentive to avoiding PVP for just rushing to the end.
It makes for quick boring games.
I honestly don’t see the benefit of intentionally losing battlegrounds.
This is coming from someone who did this in actual TBC with eye of the storm. You don’t get enough honor from intentionally losing so you’ll just have to farm the honor in the future. You don’t get the benefit when you don’t also get the honor. Mine as well just farm both at the same time.
Can always reroll Alliance.
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I’m sorry but other forms of win trading/donating is min/maxed too and should also be banned. Just because cheating is possible, it doesn’t mean the game was badly designed to allow it.
WRONG!
This is a contempt filled protest and there’s actually nothing optimal about it unless you are talking about the gains your opponent get from it.
So you are threatening to cheat as often as you possibly can until your demands are met. Ok, this just proves my point.
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This sounds like an exploit and completely unintended design of the game. Whatever happened to actually playing a game? Wow, just wow.
Afk’ing in bg’s will get you bans, and it should.
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Quick Marks of Honor.
3 minute loss for 1 Mark is better than a 20 minute win for 3.
Hes arguing a good point just representing it poorly.
- 15min bg que. Zone in, Full naxx geared nerds 1hit you
- Gain nearly no honor
Where in this does the incentive to care exist? It’s no wonder people afk
If they designed bgs to reward gameplay and punish not playing the incentive would be to try but that is not currently what exists and thus people devolve to this behavior
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I find it absolutely bizarre that people are getting in trouble for throwing games. It’s not RBG’s it isn’t win trading in competitive bracket. If you make a premade, and encounter a team that is gonna drag out the match, and you throw to save time, is that bannable?
As horde I have been pvping non stop in pre-patch and have only really encountered maybe like 5-10 losing premades.
They aren’t. Anyone claiming they are is lying about their botting.
Yes, but you cant do anything with that mark.
you are both wrong. people are just HARD afking bgs. its not botting or throwing
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You can tell yourself that, but when you proliferate such nonsense on the forums, be prepared to have it called such.
I think you completely missed the point.
The argument is that Blizzard is not paying enough attention to the ‘voice of the customer’ and adjusting the game based on it. The AFK BG groups is an example.
Fast marks for the opponent. Disgusting.
I can understand the drool-on-the-floor mentality that is PvP = Welfare epics.
When your only method of PvPing involves actual AFKing and donating wins to the opponent to speed up their honor process, there’s no effort right?
Other MMOs would have completely died for much less.
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Yeah I figure this is absolutely the case
I didn’t miss the point. I hit it right on. You and others are doing this as a protest, not out of any reasonable reaction. Just re-read your verbiage here.
Bans are not only reasonable, they should be permanent. All of TBC should just not be available to people who break all the rules they possibly can so they can hurt the regular playing base for activism.
You and others essentially tried to hold others for ransom.
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