Councils are okay, provided they aren’t unneccesarily enlarged. Democracy is the tyranny of the uninformed.
Better would be a Warchief that could be checked by a council. Hopefully the Horde can avoid being bogged down by the need to ratify simple executive actions.
You’re welcome to your opinion but I think it’s wrong, or at least clouded.
Because Baine has never “bent over backwards to accommodate the rival faction” but rather is someone who “eases tensions or finds some common ground that both parties can agree too.” It’s literally his greatest strength and his best attribute.
- Not an opinion of the Alliance
- Not my “Alliance POV”
- Keep your RP out of the discussion.
I happen to play both factions so my opinion is just as valid as anyone else’s.
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Your arguments are obviously written from an alliance pov. I’ve seen enough of you on the board to know that by now.
Baine bents himself over backwards literally all the time. But of course you support that because Baine’s simping always supports the alliance first and formost.
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You haven’t seen any such thing.
YOU may take your RP way too seriously and assume that everyone else does to but you’re delusional if you think I identify as my character or her faction…
Keep telling yourself that.
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Not as boring as the same recipe of “good Warchief out, bad Warchief in” we’ve been subjected to time and time again for the past half-dozen expansions.
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Pro tip just ignore Erevien. Seriously.
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Lashk is on the Zanchuli Council, not the Horde Council.
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I agree wholeheartedly with you. It was a dumb decision.
WoD proves that this is not necessarily true.
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Horde should have a Warchief and the Alliance should have an actual council.
Good for the factions to have differences.
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This is not a bad idea… I also like the concept mention before about Warchief being a position only active in an actual War situation… were he/she can take the lead. Hmmm but then we return to the same formula… that’s been over use… 
However who could be…? Horde Warchief possible candidates have been water down to almost acting extremely “meek”.
Ah I can’t decide I’m feel so torn over this!!! 
You know what, nvm!
I think I’ll wait until I can see more of the new story to make up my mind… to be able to actually formulate a good constructive opinion on the matter. Right now I feel like I’m just grabbing straws to create an fair criticism or opinion. 
I guess Ill read on your takes on it and wait… so don’t mind me! 
A “War Council” lead by a Warchief (who is a first among equals) would have made the most sense if they wanted to progress from the Old Horde. But it’s realistic and interesting and multi-dimensional so of course we don’t have that.
The feeling is mutual, I’m not digging this new council thing AT ALL.
Warchief was never the issue, it was who keeps managing to get into the position that was problematic. Well that and whether or not it was time to hit the Horde with the villain bat again.
Yes, cuz so much “good” always comes from the continuation of this conflict, right?
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Do you think it has anything to do with “Toxic Masculinity” or “Horde Pride”. Does the position of the Warchief symbolize toxic masculinity, I know that was a thing with certain writers on twitter.
Was there too much “Horde Pride” and we needed to be knocked down a notch or 100? The reason I say that is because I use to be a crazed Horde fan and I could see it in others, if I’m wearing my Horde shirt someone always would “FOR THE HORDE” me. When I watch Blizzcon the Horde fans are always “For the Horde” in their raspy voices and super loud.
Its a good thing there won’t be a Blizzcon this year because I feel like they would have gotten people’s mumbling and grumbling in the smallest unmotivated tones “for the horde…”
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What
Is the lack of Horde Pride(if you think it exist) intentional? Was getting rid of the iconic Warchief position needed to subdue underlying issues with the Horde? I’m trying to see the point of a council(zzzz) over such an iconic part of the Horde.
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The problem is not the warchief position, the real problem is that whenever said warchief decides something it leads to civil war, and don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind having conflicts within the horde as along as they are solved within the horde and not running to daddy anduin for help
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“Trying something new and fresh” would be my guess.
The problem isn’t the warchief as position. The problem is blizzards one sided(alliance biased) writing about it that made the system fail.
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“new and fresh” could have been simply appointing a decent Warchief that didn’t die within a day or two or someone that wasn’t actively trying to kill the Horde since Thrall.
Edit: We keep the iconic Warchief position and have a decent Warchief. Win-win
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A benevolent despot is still a despot.
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