You mean like Vol’jin.
Cuz that’s the most disgusting thing about all this, we literaly HAD that and Blizzard was just like “Noope” and axed him off in order to have this be the problem again.
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Even with Thrall and Garrosh, there was still time for the other races to have some spotlight so It was never really a real problem as even if they go full stupid, the rest of the Horde could put him back at his place.
What I really dislike of the council it’s about the whole thing was only done to push the Horde into being a lite Alliance with where everyone seems to be humans with different skin colour instead of using the previous culture which these races were built years ago.
This is why I do hope Blizzard shifts the focus toward the playable races and advance some arcs(which is something being tied to the major factions would never push imo) rather than just cluster everything with the Horde and Alliance leadership that at this point I don’t think a great number of players even care for then with some exceptions.
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I already mentioned that I really liked the fact that no one seems to be able to hold the Warchief position for longer than a year or two. Sorry for Voljin, tho.
To be fair, I’m actually curious if Blizzard will do the council right with the Horde compared to what they ended up doing with the Alliance.
In theory by having everyone on the council, you’ll actually see more of them actually do stuff instead of the usual Thrall, Baine, ect. And because they actually HAVE managed to do that when the Horde’s narrative was wrapped around the hands of a warchief I’m personally optimistic.
But Blizzard’s writing team has proven that when given a group of characters that they have to make work they will default to the easiest option, which means if things go sideways, I expect to see a lot more Thrall and Baine and just them.
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I’m always optimistic to this chance as well but even while they showed some disagreements at the previous book, they portrayed Go’el as someone that everyone respects for some reason despite he’s a joke compared to the Thrall we used to have.
In theory this should be the goal aimed by the writers but:
They did at the past and was the reason that many didn’t mind much the warchief title but with the Introduction of characters that are more Alliance than Horde like Calia and Derek with too much spotlight instead of more older members that needs some development is what really makes me not much optimistic
Yes pretty much this, but hey hope is what dies last and perhaps things would actually work in this instance
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I don’t know, they’ve been pushing Lor’themar pretty hard recently for some reason.
If you looked up the proper definition of “despot” then you would realize that “benevolent despot” is an oxymoron. Again, the term implies that Anduin uses his power for oppression and cruelty, which he doesn’t.
One of the writers probably likes him.
Preach sis, preach!
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Preach PreahER!!
blizzard destroyed the horde what is now is a red alliance.
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I think if it was any kind of political group think, it was “we can’t show singular leaders succeeding. Only groups work.” But instead of democracy, they essentially set up Oligarchy.
Probably. Nu-Blizz really seems to hate the Horde.
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I’m not against the Council, but I’m skeptical that it will amount to much in the end. As others have pointed out, such things aren’t Blizzard’s forte. That said, I’m pleased with what I’ve seen of the Council so far.
Honestly, I wish that the position of Warchief had been kept. Times change (see what I did there?) but it was still an iconic part of the faction. I would’ve preferred a Warchief with a council to keep them in check, that could veto the Warchief with a super-majority.
But, at the same time, considering the cast of Horde characters left? That kind of dynamic might’ve not proven very interesting. Regardless, my fingers are crossed that the Council is done well in the future, giving each leader some spotlight and development.
They set up a republic, not an oligarchy. They are each a nation with their own governance and interests united with equal representation. That is far from an oligarchy.
Republics elect their representatives.
Functionally the Horde may as well not even have a council. Blizzard never writes councils.
Dalaran is supposedly led by one, but it was only ever Antonidas/Jaina/Khagdar (depending on what time period) who the story treated as the leader.
Moria is the only dwarf leader who does anything.
Halduron and Rommath may as well not exist.
The Alliance is supposedly an alliance of equals but Anduin does all the decision making.
The Horde is just going to have a Warchief in all but name, because whenever a nation is led by a council Blizzard only ever focuses on one member of it. Currently in Shadowlands it seems to be Lor’themar?
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I think the council is good because it’s a change of pace. I don’t think a warchief works particularly well either now since there are so many races, so many ideas and so many cultures that it’s pretty unreasonable to expect a warchief to do as many as people as possible well.
I don’t subscribe to “where is muh old school Horde”, so I prefer progression as opposed to stagnation.
And people may defend the inclusion of the Blood Elves into the Horde, but that is what set this particular trend going. When you have the Horde of Kalimdor - with 1 unlikely ally in the Forsaken abroad - then the Warchief makes more sense. But when you add on top of that two nations of Elves and one Goblin Cartel, are they really going to be answering to one Warchief?
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Why not? He’s a likable, rational character.
The Horde was running low on those in Battle For Azeroth.
I’m kind of on board with this kind of thinking.
My big question is why did it require two pointless civil wars to get here. It would of made sense for Thrall to ‘appoint’ a council of elders before naming Garosh war chief. Likewise it would have made sense for Voljin to institute some form of governance for the position of warchief post SoO. He didn’t really do anything else and this could and should have been his noteworthy contribution and legacy to the horde.
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