The Warchief is the iconic seat for Horde structure and I dislike that it’s been stripped.
I’d like someone to hold the position that’d listen to council, but I don’t think the Warchief position should have left.
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I’ll believe it when I see it.
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Same feeling here. Vol’jin was perfect for the job. But blizzard wasted and killed him far too fast. Hope he returns as a full character in shadowlands.
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I’ve played since Vanilla and been Horde since Burning Crusdade. I love the council idea for many reasons. No one has to agree with me and most won’t but that’s fine.
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I like seeing all the different races have more a say rather than just nodding heads at ONE figure head which is the master race at that time. (all guards in cities that race etc).
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I like how it will encourage discussion and more cohesion when decisions are made both because I was tired of HAVING to follow the directive even if it felt Wrong. And also because now if the collective does do something then we as a whole are more to blame. As opposed to now EVERY hordie is shamed for the burning of the tree even if we, as players, wanted nothing to do with it. We were forced into that spot. Hopefully with a collective now we won’t be so black and white painted as evil.
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I love seeing the different faction heads interacting. I feel we are a stronger HOrde together and using all talents and wisdom as opposed to one view and one voice. We are much stronger together. Much more impressive and imposing. Maybe we’ll stop being the scapegoat to all things bad going on and existing.
I don’t worry over the role of warchief going away. It has proven flawed. I’m more excited to see the Horde smarten up and fix flaws rather than cling to them because…tradition.
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Tbh, I feel like they foreshadowed it a bit in the new novel with certain Anduin scenes. Especially since he was slanting into the “anything necessary” mindset. So we might see it. Probably not in Shadowlands, but we might see more setup for it during the expansion.
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They’ve foreshadowed Alliance characters going dark before. Varian in Wrath, Jaina in MoP and early Legion. Every time though Blizzard chickens out and makes the character nice again and then proceeds to villainize another Horde leader.
I’ll allocate a tiny amount of hope that they’ve found a spine to do it this time around, but I’m not going to hold my breath on it.
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I don’t blame you. Though I’ll still hold on hope that something interesting will happen. Especially with Anduin tapping into the Void in the book. That had me pretty hyped.
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Don’t think a council like that would work, in times of war or during a crisis you need a chain of command to avoid having members going rogue and becoming a liability because their ideas were discarded.
No one can lead if we’re all equals, and if we are all equals it’s just anarchy
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The Horde council is just kinda like… bland oatmeal at the moment. There isn’t really any stand out reason to like them. Of the original races, Lor’themar is the standout in the personality department, and that fact is less than encouraging.
The council is something that will require some story dedication to achieve any sort of depth. If Blizzard has taught me anything about their storytelling, I don’t expect that sort of narrative attention unless the writers decide to fracture it to villain bat one of them. Or I suppose the narrative team could villain bat them all. I don’t think it’s beyond them.
TL;DR: My faith in the council is lacking.
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I’m not sold on the council at all (Blizzard hasn’t managed councils well so far) but if it saves our characters from the villain bat since they can just rotate our spotlighted leader out without murdering them, I’ll deal with it.
Not a fan what so ever, just because we’ve seen blizzard do councils before Looks at dwarfs when was the last time they did anything? that wasn’t just Moria being sent out as the head or being the talking piece for them etc.
Also Warchief is super Iconic and I’m more annoyed that suddenly it’s a problem…why couldn’t they just have both? A warchief with powers limited depending on whats going on and they have to get the A okay from a council for super major decisions
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You just beat me to it. I was thinking of the same idea. You can have a Warchief who acts as the voice for the Horde. However, he/she doesn’t have ultimate power. There is still a council that the Warchief has to contend with.
With just a council, who is the voice of the Horde? There is the potential that you have differing opinions within the council and then you have conflicting voices, confusing a situation. The Alliance hears something from, say,Baine. Yet you might have, say, Gazlowe or Lor’themar telling them something different.
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I have mix feeling on the matter… While I do agree that the Warchief is an iconic role… I am happy that others might get a spot to shine in these new council.
Also Baine or Lothermar as Warchief is a no go aperantly…as it seems to have been written to be forever followers in the game… even if the books and lore says otherwise about their leadership skills in WoW.
So I want to see were the writers team leads us with this “Red Alliance” players and my personal friends keep mentioning as we play this New Horde in WoW.
I can’t really make up my mind on this to be honest.
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I think that the Warchiefs role should be delegated to a purely military role.
Still have a Warchief but instead of having to do everything they are merely the sum representation of the Hordes combined military forces and is responsible for their rearmament, training, placement, recruitment and spearheading any war campaigns as ordered by the collective council.
The Warchief must have a seat on the council to advise of military matters as well as report on the status of their forces, threats facing them and what threat the Alliance poses to them going forwards.
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“Warchief” should purely be a military title used to describe the person who’s commanding the Horde’s military during a time of war. Someout outside the Council itself should be picked and they should answer to the Horde Council.
At least IMO that’s how future “warchiefs” should be handled.
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So just like the surpreme commander of the alliance then? Sounds boring.
Then they would be the Lordaeron Alliance.
That’s basically what Baine is right now. He’s the Spokesman of the Horde, as well as standin Warchief. And in many ways, it’s the perfect position for him. He’s a better Diplomat then Warchief, and the Horde needs a Diplomat more then they need a Warchief right now.
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Apparently that’s Thrall actually and not baine, also last I checked a diplomat is someone who eases tensions or finds some common ground that both parties can agree too and doesn’t bend over backwards to accommodate the rival faction, that person who does that is called a door mat.
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It’s not up to decide for the Alliance to say what the Horde needs. Now shut up and stop bringing your alliance pov here in nobody asked for.
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Try and ease up on the hostility my dude, all opinions should be given some thought on the matter, also friendly rem the character people post with doesn’t always equal which side they favor most.
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