Does the $6.99 GamePass mean P2W is coming?

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I have always been skeptical of MS for its skechy business practices, starting with buying out Sega Dreamcast just to remove it as competition. I have also not had much confidence in its ability to publish any games. All the great AAA titles are created elsewhere, and just brought into MS/XBOX’s orbit as exclusives.

I’ve seen some of MS’s titles become very pay to win. I can’t imagine their executives would give former act/blizzard titles a pass on their monthly dues to keep GamePass cheap. I know there will be a huge backlash here if/when that happens. I hope that will at least delay the introduction of player power being added to the in-game store, and therby delaying the demise of the game we all love.

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The Game Pass does not mean Pay2Win.

And just because Microsoft bought Activision-Blizzard, doesn’t mean Microsoft is going to be the one developing World of Warcraft, it will still be Blizzard developing WoW.

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People are vastly overestimating how much WoW is going to be affected by all this.

Especially in the near future.

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That’s what everyone said when Activision bought Blizzard. We saw the results of their meddling.

You think act-blizzard shareholders will be happy that their montly sub got cut in half or microsoft shareholders will be happy to know they won’t be getting return on their $68B purchase? They will want to know how they will begin getting repaid for this.

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We don’t even know IF WoW will be on the Gamepass honestly. I may be wrong, but I don’t think there are any PC only games on the Gamepass, and the vast majority on Xbox Gamepass are cross platform between PC and Xbox.

So the IF it goes to Gamepass likely rests on whether or not they want to pay a new set of developers to port it over to Xbox. Once that happens, THEN we can start worrying about this.

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Let’s use Forza Hirozon titles for example, then repeat your statement to me.

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Maybe they’ll add flying and rep to the store lul. At this point I’d prefer that to how Blizzard has handled them the last few expacs.

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How is this sketchy

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Activision never bought Blizzard. Vivendi, Blizzard’s parent company, bought Activision in 2007 and merged them into Activision-Blizzard.

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There’s zero indication this will ever be a thing. And zero indication that WoW will even be on GamePass.

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Anti-competive practices aren’t just sketchy, they are are in most cases illegal and antithetical to our economy. Competition keeps prices low and variety of quality products high.

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I don’t think ESO is, and that’s under Microsoft. MMOs are profitable in their own right. At best they’ll be giving out month passes with a purchase as a trial thing or give a discount to WoW.

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They did say something like “all games that can be put on gamepass from the catalogue of Acti-Blizz games will be added”. So it seems like it could be. I’m sure it’ll be the same though. I use Wowup for my addons now and not Twitch. Before that I used Twitch instead of the Curse client. I imagine it’ll be much the same.

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Sure, that can be. But that doesn’t necessarily mean WoW. Especially given that ESO works off of its own launcher. It’s also something we don’t even need to concern ourselves with for over a year.

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For every title you put up that doesn’t yet have P2W, I can add 10 from Microsoft’s library that does.

The fact is, this is a B2P + Sub business model game. It’s going to become a simple B2P game, since the GamePass already supports other games. Yes, we will still have to get the PC GamePass each month, but we’re not adding any value to the shareholders.

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That’s nice. But I gave you an example of a company that was acquired by Microsoft that runs an MMORPG like WoW and still has its own launcher with its own sub. You can continue to doomsay all you want, but I’m simply giving you information to use as you will.

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Your point?
They still report to Activision

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I thought P2W has been here for awhile now?

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However, they’ll be treated better than others and there will be change within the company. Steve Danuser could be released soon under Microsoft. I hope…

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